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« on: October 05, 2016, 04:55:49 PM »
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    • Can someone explain to me as if I'm 5, why the New Rite of Ordinations is invalid?
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    « Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 05:14:08 PM »
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    • They took out the words "to offer sacrifice for the living and the dead" and "Whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven"

    No faculty to offer the Mass or hear confessions.

    Google  old and new rite of ordination and you can see a side by side comparison.

    Basically they adopted the protestant rite which past Popes claimed were invalid.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 06:04:35 PM »
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    • Fr. Gregory Hesse refused to be conditionally re-ordained because he was certain that the new rite is valid. There are many traditional priests who were ordained in the new rite (and who haven’t been conditionally re-ordained) who have brought forth, and who continue to bring forth, such good fruits that it is inconceivable to me that they are not true priests. Would Fr. Gruner have had the graces to do the great work that he did if he wasn’t really a true priest? Give me a break.

    John Salza and Robert Siscoe wrote an article exposing Peter Dimond’s lie about the new rite not containing any mention of offering sacrifice or forgiving sins http://www.trueorfalsepope.com/p/sedevacantist-watch-peter-dimonds-epic.html




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    « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 06:17:32 PM »
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    • I am not an expert so I do not know if the new rite is valid or not but I can guess. Knowing that the Church was infiltrated by and taken over by the Jєωs and freemasons, wouldn't it be in their interests as agents of satan to make the new rite invalid when they changed it so that the priests would not have the power to forgive sins and that many more souls would be damned to hell?
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    « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 06:32:01 PM »
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    Basically they adopted the protestant rite which past Popes claimed were invalid.


    If saintly popes declared protestant ordinations invalid (remember in the beginning they had valid bishops but changed the rite) how can a similar rite now be valid?
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    « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 08:13:39 PM »
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    All the answers to this are here at Schism House's website. They base it off of the writings of Michael Davies' book the "Order of Melchesidech" and Pope Leo XIII's encyclical "Apostilicae Curae".


    Can't open these links
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    « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 08:37:09 PM »
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    • Many believe the new rite or ordination is most likely valid.  It is the new rite of Episcopal Consecration that is not valid.  

    The following articles can provide a clear explanation:

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpConsArtPDF2.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NuEpConObjex.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpCelierWeb.pdf
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    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 09:03:29 PM »
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    Many believe the new rite or ordination is most likely valid.  It is the new rite of Episcopal Consecration that is not valid.  

    The following articles can provide a clear explanation:

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpConsArtPDF2.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NuEpConObjex.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpCelierWeb.pdf


    But that would mean that most priests from the Latin rite would be ordained by false Bishops?
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    « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 09:15:35 PM »
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    Many believe the new rite or ordination is most likely valid.  It is the new rite of Episcopal Consecration that is not valid.  

    The following articles can provide a clear explanation:

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpConsArtPDF2.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NuEpConObjex.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpCelierWeb.pdf


    Can't open these links either. Why?
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    « Reply #9 on: October 05, 2016, 11:59:46 PM »
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    All the answers to this are here at Schism House's website. They base it off of the writings of Michael Davies' book the "Order of Melchesidech" and Pope Leo XIII's encyclical "Apostilicae Curae".


    I actually put MHFM's website in there and I can only assume the moderator changed it to "Schism House".


    Seems reasonable to me.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 05:36:38 PM »
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    Many believe the new rite or ordination is most likely valid.  It is the new rite of Episcopal Consecration that is not valid.  

    The following articles can provide a clear explanation:

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpConsArtPDF2.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NuEpConObjex.pdf

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/NewEpCelierWeb.pdf


    But that would mean that most priests from the Latin rite would be ordained by false Bishops?


    Yes.  That is exactly what it means.  I believe that this is the case.

    The direct links do not seem be able to be opened.  To get to the articles, go to Traditional Mass website:

    http://www.traditionalmass.org/

    Select "Articles" from the menu on the left.
    Select "Sacraments" from the list of article topics that opens.

    The articles I referenced are listed.

    The website also contains a lot of good information.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 08:41:49 PM »
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    • Chapter 12 of Daniel states the Sacrifice will come to an end and also says for how long measured in days=3 and a half years.  

    Looks like no ordination to bring Christ's Precious Blood to this earth.  

    IMO we are close.
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