One thing that definitely needs to come out with the overall of obamacare is not penalizing with a fine those who don't wish to have health insurance!

It never made sense to punish people with fines because they couldn't afford health insurance.

I thought it was pretty rotten. Especially considering these terrorists come to our country and get everything free including healthcare.   Obamacare benefitted greedy health insurance companies, doctors and big pharm.

yeh, for sure. i still dont know how illegals get benefits w/o anyone doing anything about it.. don't get that, except that i didn't "get" the last 8 yrs... didn't get it at all

i mean, anyone applying for assistance has to show a  SSA card and driver's license.. How are these laws gotten around?  :confused1:

One thing that definitely needs to come out with the overall of obamacare is not penalizing with a fine those who don't wish to have health insurance!

yes, but the thing is, the fewer who have insurance, the smaller the pool which means higher healthcare costs for those who have insurance. Then the govt has to pay for those who have not had insurance, or they do if the person is low income or whatever (low but not low enough for medicaid..).

I dont know the answer.. b/c i can barely figure out the question.. meaning i have numerous question about this and wonder why Ted Cruz and the Freedom Caucus do not like the new bill

and Fox News will not interview those people, to speak of... Yeh, they have had Jim Jordan on, but never Ted Cruz.. rarely Mike Lee and when they do, they do not talk long.. never, ever an interview  

very confusing story here

you hear Ryan and others say they think this thing will pass

you hear the opposite, that they need votes in the House and 50 Rs dont like the bill and etc... etc...

All I know is this: If Cruz and Lee and Meadows and etc... are against it (Freedom Caucus), I am also.

I can't say I know everything that's in the bill but I am not like Nancy Peℓσѕι. I don't want it passed b4 the American people understand it. Washington keeps information from We the People. I think a lot of them are w/ the architect of O-care.. think we are stupid

many supporting this bill speak in massive vagueries... (bad spelling or soemthing)

Scalise seems like a dishonest thug to me, essentially saying that if you are against it, you are a traitor to your country or soemthing. No, he did not say that but I listened to him today and that is how HE CAME ACROSS...

never thought i would applaud a Dem but that one chick who is on Fox a lot... can't recall her name but she was the one who said something to the effect that just bc Peℓσѕι is against it doesn't mean Rs dont have their own reaons 2b against it.. which echoed my own thoughts PRECISELY.

( her last name was Marshall)_

 
 
I think everyone should be mandated to have insurance. I never thought I would say that,  just don't like the government mandating us to do things. But healthcare… well,  being healthy is everyone’s concern. I can’t  believe the premiums some people are paying, and paid even before there was Obamacare!
 
People on entitlements usually get healthcare “free.” But they can pay something, even if it is only, say, 2% of their income.
 
Here is why no one should get any substantial benefit like (basic) healthcare for free:
 
For one thing, when you get something for free, you have virtually no say in the laws that govern that something... which is how it is-- when you depend on the government. From what I have seen, it is never good to be dependent on government. People on Disability got a few a “raises” when Obama was in office, not big ones, but I say that every govt program should be and definitely could be cut by something like 1 or 2% and instead, the person being assisted could use that cut in his/her check to by health insurance. Again, no one should get anything “free..” not that there is anything really free—
 
They should have the choice of where to get healthcare, etc… but everyone should have some kind of basic plan, one that covers (mostly) catastrophic incidents.  Only people who have no income at all should have access to cost-free healthcare. But of course, someone has to pay for that, which is where Medicaid comes in?
 
Anyone with an income, even if it is not much, should  pay for a health insurance that covers essential health care.
 
Those who pay, say, 40% of their income on rent or more could have some kind of exemption (Medicaid?).. 
 
Bottom  line: healthcare  needs to be affordable... If those on entitlements  paid something like 2% of their income for healthcare, others who make a lot of money could pay, say, 4% or whatever… there could be brackets, just like in the tax code, based on income.
 
With everyone paying into the healthcare system, the premiums would go down. Then it would be affordable and not just for a few—as is the case under O-care.
 
At first, I resisted this mandate idea because on the face of it, it tends to look like the govt forces you to buy something. But we are not talking about just any old thing being purchased. Everyone should be responsible for his own health, to the extent possible.
 
I hate to pick on the poor (so many others do that so well), but I know some poor people who get this and that entitlement, and they are fat and probably unhealthy. I know one (know of one, that is) who seems to drink the biggest from-the-fountain  pop he can get, and drinks those, apparently every day. These people can spend  money on health insurance. Two percent of their income is not much. I think that if everyone paid insurance, low income people would spend  less for healthcare every month than what they spend on a 32-oz of pop every day. With them not being in the insurance pools, they are  causing the middle class  to have to pay far too much for health care.
 
Tell me where I am wrong..