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Re: Multiple C-Sections, Pressure From Doctor
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2024, 01:43:13 PM »
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  • Seems to me the solution is a Medical Power of Attorney for your husband. And an Advanced Directive stating no procedures for the purpose of sterilization.

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    « Reply #16 on: January 17, 2024, 01:44:36 PM »
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  • Seems to me the solution is a Medical Power of Attorney for your husband. And an Advanced Directive stating no procedures for the purpose of sterilization.
    How would one go about that? Ask the doctor for the paperwork? 


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    « Reply #17 on: January 17, 2024, 01:54:37 PM »
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  • How would one go about that? Ask the doctor for the paperwork?

    Here's an explanation. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/law_aging/resources/health_care_decision_making/power_atty_guide_and_form_2011/

    There are a lot of free forms online, if only as examples of what these look like. (Note, if you see "advance directive" or "living will" those are for end of life, not for routine care, but it doesn't hurt to be informed about that either.)

    Look here for Catholic versions. https://txcatholic.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Medical_Power_Attorney.pdf








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    « Reply #18 on: January 17, 2024, 03:15:23 PM »
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  • How would one go about that? Ask the doctor for the paperwork?
    Heck no because those docuмents take his power away don't even tell him you're gonna do that until after you have the docuмents. Make sure the clinic and the hospital also have copies of these docuмents. You can use forms that you download off the internet that are specific for your state. It will have to be notarized which you should be able to do at your bank at no charge.

    Make sure your husband understands the situation and all the appropriate options. In an emergency he may get scared and just do what the hospital tells him without understanding the ramifications.

    This is not to suggest that full or partial removal of reproductive organs may not be necessary in a true emergency situation. I think your provider must understand that you are against treatments to prevent pregnancy.

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    Re: Multiple C-Sections, Pressure From Doctor
    « Reply #19 on: January 17, 2024, 04:24:37 PM »
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  • I believe it was in the 60's.  It was considered against the law?, however, to ask, pressure a women  who has just had a C-section for sterilization.

    How dare they, doc, take advantage of a situation when the lady is hurting and such.  Gospel says, suffering will be forgotten once the baby is in the arms of the mother  etc.  The world is evil.  How does one find a doc. who has the calling of God.  When they don't, it becomes just a job. YUK!

    No women should go past 40 weeks, it can have the baby regress, and more on the mother.

    about the year 2000, $$$ for abortion was the state(s) saying "more visits will make for healthier babies."  Give us a million$$.  I testified here in the state of Phoenix.  It was the CEO of Dept. of Health, who knew what was going on.  I testified to prove more visits do not make for a better outcome.  They lost their money!  Then next was the notion that 40 weeks was for better outcomes and again the state(s) asked for $$$$.  And again, if they get that $$$ it goes for abortion.  Evil!! When doctors get paid by the state, programs from the feds, like Catholic Charities get $10,000 a year for a pro-life clinic.  Well, they don't get $10,000 unless they support the federal agenda of communism.   It is so sad for all this evil going on.  But if a doc. is being paid by the state, and these pro-life clinics have a list of doctors to choose from.  Here in Phoenix, during 1987--- the list had all doctors being paid by the state.  one doctor said he was NFP.  Well, he may have, but he was still being paid by the state.  Therefore he must do as the state says.  He was gagged.  In his office he was not allowed to give any talk of NFP or advertise.  In other words, he was showing himself to say nothing about options,, just gagged.

    So, that is some of the game play.  You want $$$, from state, federal grants, fine, but you must follow their ways.


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    « Reply #20 on: January 17, 2024, 06:06:10 PM »
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  • Sending to a specialist equals more money for hospital.   The part about tearing up paperwork sounds like BS.  

    Time to get rid of both obgyns and get a new one. 

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    « Reply #21 on: January 17, 2024, 06:13:13 PM »
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  • “what bothers me is how he pressured me to sign a docuмent giving him the option to do the tubal”.  You did nothing wrong. 
     You probably don’t even need a c section.    What you need is a new doctor.   

    You did nothing wrong.  He is a con artist.   


    You need to get rid of both doctors and find a new one.  You should be angry at your female doctor for referring you to such a creep. 


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    « Reply #22 on: January 17, 2024, 06:14:46 PM »
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  • Sterilization after a c section is not normal.  I have never heard of any thing like that. 


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    Re: Multiple C-Sections, Pressure From Doctor
    « Reply #23 on: January 17, 2024, 06:25:44 PM »
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  • Sterilization after a c section is not normal.  I have never heard of any thing like that.
    It's so they could do two surgeries at the same time, i've heard of it being done and normalized. 

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    « Reply #24 on: January 17, 2024, 07:20:32 PM »
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  • It's so they could do two surgeries at the same time, i've heard of it being done and normalized.
    OP here. Yes. It is unfortunately a very common practice and has been for some time. 

    What is terrifying is that after I was born, when my mother was on the operating table, they brought it up to my dad that her life would be at risk if she were to ever conceive again. Terrified, he consented with her without any hesitation. They tied her tubes on the spot before closing her up. 

    I do not fault my father for this, or my mother. They were 100% blindsided and fearful without the Catholic faith to guide them. They thought they were doing the right thing. 

    Similarly, my MIL was popped the same question on the operating table. They scared her and she consented. She grieves her decision to this day. My husband is her only son, and her daughter died at 8 years of age. 

    Needless to say, I have been wary of doctors especially in the birthing industry. When I got married, I was sure that I would not give in easily to having a c-section. While I believe mine were necessary, it has been a bitter pill to swallow considering how both sets of parents succuмbed to pressured and unnecessary sterilization.  

    The thought has crossed my mind that there is a generational demon waging war against my family. 

    The abuses in the birthing industry are egregious. It is a horror that comes from the depths of hell. A scourge to human kind. 

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    « Reply #25 on: January 17, 2024, 08:28:51 PM »
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  • I have heard of having to do an emergency hysterectomy in rare cases ( for uncontrolled hemorrhage etc) but I have NEVER heard of doing an emergency tubal ligation. That is just ridiculous. what kind of life threatening condition would a tubal solve? 
    This OB just want's to sterilize you.


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    « Reply #26 on: January 17, 2024, 08:31:04 PM »
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  • OP here. Yes. It is unfortunately a very common practice and has been for some time.

    What is terrifying is that after I was born, when my mother was on the operating table, they brought it up to my dad that her life would be at risk if she were to ever conceive again. Terrified, he consented with her without any hesitation. They tied her tubes on the spot before closing her up.

    I do not fault my father for this, or my mother. They were 100% blindsided and fearful without the Catholic faith to guide them. They thought they were doing the right thing.

    Similarly, my MIL was popped the same question on the operating table. They scared her and she consented. She grieves her decision to this day. My husband is her only son, and her daughter died at 8 years of age.

    Needless to say, I have been wary of doctors especially in the birthing industry. When I got married, I was sure that I would not give in easily to having a c-section. While I believe mine were necessary, it has been a bitter pill to swallow considering how both sets of parents succuмbed to pressured and unnecessary sterilization. 

    The thought has crossed my mind that there is a generational demon waging war against my family.

    The abuses in the birthing industry are egregious. It is a horror that comes from the depths of hell. A scourge to human kind.
    Are you Native American, mixed race, or family from a poor community/uninsured? I'm curious about the motive for the sterilization of both mothers.

    Women on Medicaid will be pushed towards sterilization after a certain number of babies.  Doctor doesn't matter. It's the program that matters.

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    « Reply #27 on: January 17, 2024, 08:57:04 PM »
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  • Are you Native American, mixed race, or family from a poor community/uninsured? I'm curious about the motive for the sterilization of both mothers.

    Women on Medicaid will be pushed towards sterilization after a certain number of babies.  Doctor doesn't matter. It's the program that matters.
    Neither family is of mixed race. However, my husbands parents were teenagers on welfare when it happened to them. 
    My parents were too poor to afford insurance when it occurred for them. 

    You have a good point. Both sets of parents were considered poor by American standards. 

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    « Reply #28 on: January 17, 2024, 09:16:40 PM »
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  • If you're able to, you could find a doula or family member (mom or sister) who could advocate for you against pushy doctors. You mentioned a friend who'll be at your operation which is good. I'm sorry that you're going through this. 

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    « Reply #29 on: January 17, 2024, 09:16:59 PM »
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  • If you're able to, you could find a doula or family member (mom or sister) who could advocate for you against pushy doctors. You mentioned a friend who'll be at your operation which is good. I'm sorry that you're going through this.
    That was me.