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most common reason for people going to Hell
« on: May 02, 2017, 01:11:25 PM »
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  • The most common reason for a person going to Hell is:

    sɛҳuąƖ immorality

    The 2nd most common reason is

    lack of charity


    I can see why Jesus said few make it

    (Mt 7:13, Lk 13:24, etc)

    There is NO charity anymore, to speak of


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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 12:15:52 AM »
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  • Ther is "A highway to hell," and "A staircase to Heaven."  I believe it says something about the expected traffick!
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll


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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 01:25:51 AM »
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  • There is "A highway to hell," and "A staircase to Heaven."  I believe it says something about the expected traffic!
    And the ease or otherwise of getting where you are going!
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 05:40:57 PM »
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  • Most of those who are in Hell are those who did not believe in its existence.  
    I have heard young people laugh about being in hell w/ t heir buddies "partying"--making fun of the "righteous" people.
    assuming they really believe that about Hell, well, we need to pray for them obviously, but it is easy to be liberal and not worried about hell when you are young. After you have lived in this crazy, God-forsaken world a little, then you start to think differently... you almost w/o thinking begin to believe in -- a place of absolute justice where there is actually punishment for wrong-doing. That's b/c the longer you live the more wrongs you will endure at the hands of [fill in the blanks but even family members who should love you--]

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 10:38:33 PM »
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    Blessed Jacinta Marto of Fatima told Mother Godinho that more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than for any other reason.
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    She learned this and numerous other wise sayings from her conversations with the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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    + “The sins of the world are very great.”
    + “Many marriages are not good; they do not please Our Lord, and they are not of God.”
    + “If men knew what eternity is, they would do everything to change their lives.”
    + “The sins that lead more souls to hell are the sins of the flesh.”
    + “Fashions that will greatly offend Our Lord will appear. People who serve God should not follow fashions. The Church has no fashions. Our Lord is always the same.”
    + “Men are lost because they do not think of the death of Our Lord and do not do penance.
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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 10:45:00 PM »
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    I have a tape made by a Catholic priest who was a missionary in China, in which he said that Pope Pius X said the immorality of the world was worse than before the Flood of Noe, and that was before the first World War. If the world was that bad then, he added, the world must be many times more sinful today than before the Flood. 
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    The tape was made in 1957. Imagine how many times worse the world is in 2017 than in 1957. 
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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 11:47:57 PM »
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  • "Those who pray will be saved. Those who do not pray will be lost." - St Alphonsus Ligouri
     

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 06:45:36 AM »
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    I have a tape made by a Catholic priest who was a missionary in China, in which he said that Pope Pius X said the immorality of the world was worse than before the Flood of Noe, and that was before the first World War. If the world was that bad then, he added, the world must be many times more sinful today than before the Flood.
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    The tape was made in 1957. Imagine how many times worse the world is in 2017 than in 1957.
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    That is frightening.


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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
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  • "Those who pray will be saved. Those who do not pray will be lost." - St Alphonsus Ligouri
    Part II, §4 "Synthesis," ch. IV "On the Certainly of Predestination," § "Signs of Predestination" of Fr. Réginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.'s Predestination: The Meaning of Predestination in Scripture and the Church says:

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    Can we be certain in this life that we are predestined? In answer to this question the Council of Trent says: "No one, so long as he is in this mortal life, ought so far to presume as regards the secret mystery of divine predestination as to determine for certain that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; as if it were true that he who is justified either cannot sin any more, or, if he do sin, that he ought to promise himself an assured repentance. For, except by special revelation, it cannot be known whom God hath chosen unto Himself."14 The reason for this is because, without a special revelation, we cannot know for certain what depends solely upon God's free will. Not one of the just, unless it is specially revealed, knows whether he will persevere in the performance of good works and in prayer. We shall be, says St. Paul, "heirs indeed of God and joint heirs with Christ; yet so, if we suffer [perseveringly] with Him, that we may be also glorified with Him."15

    Are there, however, any signs of predestination such as to give one a sort of moral certainty of perseverance? The Fathers, especially John Chrysostom, Augustine, Gregory the Great, Bernard, and Anselm, according to certain statements of Holy Scripture, pointed out several signs of predestination often enumerated by the theologians as follows: (1) a good life; (2) the testimony of a conscience that is free from serious sins and prepared rather to die than offend God grievously; (3) patience in adversities endured for the love of God; (4) readiness to hear the word of God; (5) compassion for the poor; (6) love of one's enemies; (7) humility; (8) a special devotion to the Blessed Virgin whom we ask every day to pray for us at the hour of our death.

    Among these signs, certain ones, such as Christian patience in adversity, are proof that the inequality of natural conditions is at times more than compensated by divine grace. This is borne out by the beatitudes as recorded in the Gospel: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, the meek, they that mourn, they that hunger and thirst after justice, the merciful, the clean of heart, the peacemakers, they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."16 These are the predestined. St. Thomas points out especially in his teaching that to bear patiently a heavy cross and for a long time is a sign of predestination.

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    14. Denz., no. 805 [=Council of Trent session 6, ch. 11]; cf. no. 826 [=Council of Trent session 6, canon 16].
    15. Rom. 8: 17.
    16. Matt. 5: 3–10.

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #9 on: May 04, 2017, 07:36:38 PM »
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  • The most common reason for a person going to Hell is:

    sɛҳuąƖ immorality

    The 2nd most common reason is

    lack of charity


    I can see why Jesus said few make it

    (Mt 7:13, Lk 13:24, etc)

    There is NO charity anymore, to speak of
    How do you know this?? have you been down there and taken a survey? :confused:

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #10 on: May 05, 2017, 12:02:24 AM »
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  • How do you know this?? have you been down there and taken a survey? :confused:
    Most of those who are in Hell are those who did not believe in its existence.  

    I believe this to be true because it is from the testimony of others who have been there.  


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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #11 on: May 05, 2017, 08:30:39 AM »
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  • THE TEACHINGS OF THE FATHERS, DOCTORS AND SAINTS OF T CHURCH UPON THE FINAL DESTINY OF MOST PEOPLE.
     
    1) Notwithstanding assurances that God did not create any man for Hell, and that He wishes all men to be saved, it remains equally true that few will be saved; that only few will go to Heaven; and that the greater part of mankind will be lost forever. (St. John Neuman)
     
    2) It is certain that few are saved. (St. Augustine)
     
    3) The majority of men shall not see God. (St. Julian the Martyr)
     
    4) Those who are saved are in the minority. ( St. Thomas Aquinas)
     
    5) The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love almighty God. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
     
    6) So vast a number of miserable souls perish, and so comparatively few are saved. (St. Philip Neri)
     
    7) Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. (St. Remigius of Rheims)
     
    8) Death bed conversions/repentance-there are hardly any: Out of 100,000 sinners who continue in sin until death, scarcely ONE will be saved. (St. Jerome)
     
    9) The MAJORITY OF CATHOLICS GO TO HELL:
     
    a) The greater number of Christians today are damned. The destiny of those dying on one day is that very few  -  not as many as ten  -   went straight to Heaven; many remained in Purgatory; and THOSE CAST INTO HELL WERE NUMEROUS AS SNOWFLAKES in mid-winter. (Bl. Anna Maria Taigi)
     
    b) There are many who arrive at the faith, but few who are led to the heavenly kingdom. Behold how many are gathered here for today's Feast-Day; we fill the church from wall to wall. Yet who knows how FEW they are who shall be numbered in that chosen company of the elect? (Pope St. Gregory the Great)
     
    c) The Ark, which in the midst of the Flood was the symbol of the Church, was wide below and narrow above, .... It was wide where the animals were, narrow where men lived; for the Holy Church is indeed wide in number of those who are carnal minded, narrow in the number of those who are spiritual.
    ( Pope St. Gregory the Great)
     
    d) Shall we all be saved? Shall we go to heaven? Alas, my children we do not know at all! But I tremble when I see so many souls lost these days. See, they fall into Hell as leaves fall from the trees at the approach of winter. (St. John Vianney)
     
    10) MOST PRIESTS GO TO HELL:
     
    St. John Chrysostom, Patriarch of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church:
     
    I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.
     
    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)
     
    b) Many religious go to Hell because they do not keep their vows. (St. Vincent Ferrer)
     
     
    CATHOLICS NOT ASPIRING AND NOT LIVING AS SAINTS WILL GO TO HELL:
     
    a) They who are enlightened to walk in the way of perfection, and through lukewarmness wish to tread the ordinary paths, shall be abandoned. (Bl. Angela of Foligno)
     
    b) They who are to be saved as Saints, and wish to be saved as imperfect souls, shall not be saved. (Pope St. Gregory the Great)
     
    c) St. Teresa.... had she not risen from the state of lukewarmness in which she lived, she would in the end have lost the grace of God and been damned. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)
     
    14) How many inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to say is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with it's thousands of inhabitants, not 100 people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! ( St. John Chrysostom - the city was Antioch and its inhabitants were known to be in pursuit of comfort and the good things of things life.)
     
    15) A multitude of souls fall into the depths of Hell. (St. Anthony Mary Claret - It has been revealed that on the day of the death of St. Bernard there also died 79,997 other people, and of this total of 80,000 who died, only St. Bernard and two other monks were saved.
     
    16) In the great deluge in the days of Noah, all mankind perished, eight persons alone being saved in the Ark. In our days a deluge, not of water, but sins, continually inundates the earth, and out of this deluge very few escape. Scarcely anyone is saved. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)
     
    17) Yes indeed, many will be damned; few will be saved. (St. Benedict Joseph Labro)
     
    18) If you only knew the women who will go to Hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it. ( St. John Vianney)
     
    19) He who goes to Hell, goes of his own accord. Everyone who is damned, is damned because he wills his own damnation. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
     
    20) THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE FAITH CAN ALSO GO TO HELL:
     
    a) When such unbelievers are damned, it is on account of other sins, which cannot be taken away without the faith, but not because of their sin of unbelief. (St. Thomas Aquinas)
     
    b) Everyone that is of truth hears my voice. (St. John 18:37)
     
    c) It may be true that there are, in the remotest parts of the world, some people who have not yet seen the light of the Savior. Certainly, God's manifold and ineffable goodness has always provided, and still provides, for all mankind in such a way that not one of the reprobates can find an excuse as though he had been refused the light of truth. ( St. Prosper of Aquitaine)
     
    d) No one is lost without knowing it, and no one is deceived without wanting to be. (St. Teresa of Avila)
     
    21) OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO SALVATION:
     
    a) No matter how praiseworthy his actions might seem, he who is separated from the Catholic Church will never enjoy eternal life (Pope Gregory XVI)
     
    b) O ye atheists who do not believe in God, what fools you are ! But if you do believe there is a God, you must also believe there is a true religion. And if not the Roman Catholic, which is it? Perhaps that of the pagans who admit many gods, thus they deny them all. Perhaps that of Mohammed, a religion invented by an impostor and framed for beasts rather than humans. Perhaps that of the Jєωs who had the true faith at one time but, because they rejected their redeemer, lost their faith, their country, their everything. Perhaps that of the heretics who, separating themselves from our Church, have confused all revealed dogmas in such a way that the belief of one heretic is contrary to that of his neighbor. O holy faith! Enlighten all those poor blind creatures who run to eternal perdition! (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

     

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #12 on: May 05, 2017, 01:43:27 PM »
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    Blessed Jacinta Marto of Fatima told Mother Godinho that more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than for any other reason.
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    She learned this and numerous other wise sayings from her conversations with the Blessed Virgin Mary.
    .
    + “The sins of the world are very great.”
    + “Many marriages are not good; they do not please Our Lord, and they are not of God.”
    + “If men knew what eternity is, they would do everything to change their lives.”
    + “The sins that lead more souls to hell are the sins of the flesh.”
    + “Fashions that will greatly offend Our Lord will appear. People who serve God should not follow fashions. The Church has no fashions. Our Lord is always the same.”
    + “Men are lost because they do not think of the death of Our Lord and do not do penance.
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    I had read that before but many yrs ago. Thanks
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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
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  • How do you know this?? have you been down there and taken a survey? :confused:
    some of the saints have been down there and apparently were too horrified to "take a survey"
    St Fautina is one
    St Bernard, when he died, I mean after he died, appeared to someone, who i believe also became a saint and said that when he died, 33,000 others died at the same time. Only 4 ended up in Heaven, 3 by way of Purgatory
    Even people who give up sɛҳuąƖ immorality do not do well w/ the charity thing
    I've noticed in this country that people (for example) despise people "on welfare". Well, how about making the system better so people are not dependent on the govt? It is not good to be dependent on the gov, but the governemnt foster dependency and so therefore must take a huge part of the blame. I like politicians who take into account that most grievous thing called
    Human nature
    the welfare system does not do that. But it needs to change--drastically. One example: All people should pay something for healthcare, even those on entitlements. They do not get very good care as it is. I say make them pay and give them better healthcare-- 

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    Re: most common reason for people going to Hell
    « Reply #14 on: May 05, 2017, 01:50:13 PM »
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  • I think it was 4 who went to Heaven. In any case, it was some single-digit number