Author Topic: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC (Read 69337 times)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #290 on:** February 01, 2022, 03:19:59 PM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 01, 2022, 02:53:27 PM

No. He is not a Catholic priest and cannot say Mass. He is, however, pretending to say "mass" at the home of someone from OLHC.

At the home of Guimarães?

ElwinRansom1970 · « **Reply #291 on:** February 01, 2022, 04:36:21 PM »

Cutting through the weeds and rough that have grown in this thread, here is what seems identifiable--

Michael Wiest is a priest whose ordination is from the Ultrajectine line through Arnold hαɾɾιs Mathew and whose ecclesial body of ordination is not in communion with the Bishop of Rome.

Fr. Wiest has offered Mass at OLHC.

Fr. Wiest has run an oriental collectables business and decorates his home with these objects.

Fr. Wiest has not had a background check completed according to CA law. He has said that his drivers license is lost.

The PPA board also functions as the OLHC board and have made known Fr. Wiest's Ultrajectine-line Holy Orders.

OLCH is currently dependent upon a loaned SSPX priest for Mass and sacraments, while Fr. Stsrbuck is offering Msss elsewhere. Fr. Wiest is not currently offering Mass at OLHC.

Are there any FACTS that I am missing here? This thread has gone on quite long for so few ascertainable facts. This situation seems very chaotic rather than weird. Chaos is an objective state of disorder. Weird is a subjective opinion.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #292 on:** February 02, 2022, 07:32:14 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 01, 2022, 11:26:49 AM

We and other families have contributed money to OLHC for decades to support the chapel, not to support Mr. Wiest. The school board continues to use the money contributed to the chapel to support a fake priest and to provide him with a house (with a Buddhist altar) provided by the financial support of chapel members.

Let us not forget that this is the school board that kicked Sister te Deo out of her home two days before Christmas (she has been there since back when we had three sisters including Sister Clair when she was still living.) Why have they not kicked him out?

Wiest has found several deluded people who believe his lies. He pretends to say Sunday "Mass" for them.

The chapel still lacks a permanent priest and is making due with temporary assistance from SSPX. Where would a potential priest live? Would he be expected to share a home with a fake priest with a Buddhist altar?

I meant that there seems to be nothing to add to the weirdness of Mr. Wiest.

He is not a Catholic priest, full stop.

He should not be saying "mass" dressed as a Catholic priest, and laity should not support such.

If the OLHC congregation and school board want to help out a man with congestive heart failure, that is one thing. But to foist him onto the Faithful as a Catholic priest is something entirely differet.

You get your point across through the pocketbook.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #293 on:** February 02, 2022, 08:00:56 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 02, 2022, 07:32:14 AM

He is not a Catholic priest, full stop.

Repeating an error over and over and over again does not make the error true. As a Catholic you are supposed to actually give a damn about facts and truth, whether they are palatable to you or not.
Assuming that the information provided by "the board" is true, Fr. Wiest's orders are most likely valid.

Should anyone receive Sacraments from him?
In my opinion, NO, with the sole exception of danger of death.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #294 on:** February 02, 2022, 10:32:55 AM »

First Wiest claimed his ordination was in Rome. When asked to produce docuмentation, he claimed said docuмentation had been lost in a fire. When the school board finally asked him to produce docuмentation, he came up with a letter purportedly from the heretical Old Catholic Church saying that his ordination was actually from them, not Rome.

A good starting point is

Old Catholic Church
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Old Catholic Church (disambiguation).

[th]Old Catholic Church[/th]

[th][/th]

[th]Union of Utrecht[/th]

[th]Union of Scranton[/th]

[th]Associations[/th]

World Council of Churches (Union of Utrecht only)
Church of Sweden (Union of Utrecht only)^[3]
Anglican Communion (Union of Utrecht only)

[th]Founder[/th]

Ignaz von Döllinger

[th]Origin[/th]

1870
Nuremberg, Kingdom of Bavaria

[th][/th]

Catholic Church (1879)

Old Catholics, Old-Catholic churches

The terms Old Catholic Church, Old Catholics and Old-Catholic churches^[4] designate "any of the groups of Western Christians who believe themselves to maintain in complete loyalty the doctrine and traditions of the undivided church but who separated from the see of Rome after the First Vatican council of 1869–70".^[5]
The expression Old Catholic has been used from the 1850s by communions separated from the Roman Catholic Church over certain doctrines, primarily concerned with papal authority and infallibility.

These churches are not in full communion with the Holy See. Member churches of the Union of Utrecht of the Old Catholic Churches (UU) are in full communion with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Sweden and the Anglican Communion;^[6]^[7] many members of the Union of Utrecht of the Old Catholic Churches hold membership in the World Council of Churches.^[8]^[9]
The term "Old Catholic" was first used in 1853 to describe the members of the See of Utrecht who did not recognize any infallible papal authority

CathInfo.com

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