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« Reply #210 on: January 13, 2022, 02:11:18 PM »
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  • Is this the same Michael Wiest? This photo is from Three Oaks, Michigan in June 2020. Look at photo 2 of 5 and his name is in the caption.

    https://www.harborcountry-news.com/features/three-oaks-farmers-market-filled-with-green-growing-things/article_56f10430-a50b-11ea-bfeb-cf3f97b3ae18.html


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    « Reply #212 on: January 13, 2022, 08:38:32 PM »
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  • Is this the same Michael Wiest? This photo is from Three Oaks, Michigan in June 2020. Look at photo 2 of 5 and his name is in the caption.

    https://www.harborcountry-news.com/features/three-oaks-farmers-market-filled-with-green-growing-things/article_56f10430-a50b-11ea-bfeb-cf3f97b3ae18.html


    Yes this is the same Wiest currently at OLHC

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    « Reply #213 on: January 14, 2022, 05:19:37 PM »
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  • Yes this is the same Wiest currently at OLHC

    This is from the same newspaper: Harbor Country News. In this one Mr. Wiest shows off his antique Chinese Buddha statues and other antique Chinese items, which are similar to, but not the exact same ones as shown in his Buddhist altar in his home.

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    « Reply #214 on: January 22, 2022, 08:44:34 PM »
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  • Any updates of the status of "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Is he still hearing confessions and saying Mass without having been vetted by the "School Board?"  Do we know yet where he was ordained, when and what bishop ordained him  Do we know where he has been serving as a priest for the past 20 years or so?  Why does Padre Pio Academy "School Board" allow this to go on without vetting "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Why does he continue to vehemently refuse to show his drivers license when ask to do so because its the law if he is working with children (alter boys).  Why is there NO MICHAEL WIEST ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET?  Any updates?  Is he still there?  Imagine how the faithful would feel if they realized that they have been made fools of by going to someone for confession, Mass WHO IS NOT A PRIEST!  The Class Action Law Suit will be massive against OLHC, Padre Pio Academy and "The Board!"  Updates anyone??


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    « Reply #215 on: January 23, 2022, 07:10:37 AM »
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  • Any updates of the status of "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Is he still hearing confessions and saying Mass without having been vetted by the "School Board?"  Do we know yet where he was ordained, when and what bishop ordained him  Do we know where he has been serving as a priest for the past 20 years or so?  Why does Padre Pio Academy "School Board" allow this to go on without vetting "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Why does he continue to vehemently refuse to show his drivers license when ask to do so because its the law if he is working with children (alter boys).  Why is there NO MICHAEL WIEST ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET?  Any updates?  Is he still there?  Imagine how the faithful would feel if they realized that they have been made fools of by going to someone for confession, Mass WHO IS NOT A PRIEST!  The Class Action Law Suit will be massive against OLHC, Padre Pio Academy and "The Board!"  Updates anyone??
    see reply #322 here:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/olhc-laypersons-attempting-to-take-over-chapel-censor-father-starbuck'es-sermon/msg803049/#msg803049

    I should have a little time next month I could dedicate to searching for info about wiest.  Just takes in-depth googling  a few emails and a few phone calls.

    Catholic Action is what OLHC needs.  Let's go!

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #216 on: January 23, 2022, 07:18:15 AM »
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  • see reply #322 here:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/olhc-laypersons-attempting-to-take-over-chapel-censor-father-starbuck'es-sermon/msg803049/#msg803049

    I should have a little time next month I could dedicate to searching for info about wiest.  Just takes in-depth googling  a few emails and a few phone calls.

    Catholic Action is what OLHC needs.  Let's go!
    i know several chapels where there are and were phony priests.  

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    « Reply #217 on: January 23, 2022, 03:46:58 PM »
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  • I should have a little time next month I could dedicate to searching for info about wiest.  Just takes in-depth googling  a few emails and a few phone calls.

    When you research, also check out "Bishop" Terrance/ Terrence/ Terance Fulham, friend and protector of pederast ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Father Marshall Roberts and friend of Pfeiffer.

    Fulham was found to be married and have children (work backwards from the death certificate and you will find his marriage certificates). Shortly after he was discovered to be married and have children, he was supposedly found "dead." How convenient for a man who needed a new life and an new name.

    Fulham ran two small chapels, each of which had one TLM a month, St. Michael the Archangel and Our Lady of Fatima. A slush fund called "Friends of St. Michael the Archangel Chapel" did not disband and disburse the funds when Fulham supposedly died, but several years later in December of 2020 (right before Wiest/Weist showed up at OLHC).

    If you go to the newspaper link on Wiest's Chinese junk store and get his phone number, you can do a reverse search to find all the properties Wiest bought in Jan. 2021 when he was evidently flush with cash.


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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #218 on: January 23, 2022, 10:08:04 PM »
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  • When you research, also check out "Bishop" Terrance/ Terrence/ Terance Fulham, friend and protector of pederast ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Father Marshall Roberts and friend of Pfeiffer.

    Fulham was found to be married and have children (work backwards from the death certificate and you will find his marriage certificates). Shortly after he was discovered to be married and have children, he was supposedly found "dead." How convenient for a man who needed a new life and an new name.

    Fulham ran two small chapels, each of which had one TLM a month, St. Michael the Archangel and Our Lady of Fatima. A slush fund called "Friends of St. Michael the Archangel Chapel" did not disband and disburse the funds when Fulham supposedly died, but several years later in December of 2020 (right before Wiest/Weist showed up at OLHC).

    If you go to the newspaper link on Wiest's Chinese junk store and get his phone number, you can do a reverse search to find all the properties Wiest bought in Jan. 2021 when he was evidently flush with cash.
    pretty damning evidence.
    sounds like you have done the work for me.
    please post the data.

    should be easy enough to get a body exhumed to see if there is someone in fulhams casket or not.

    also  if friends of st. Michael's was a 501c3, all their records are required to be open to the public.  who the funds went to should be listed somewhere.

    Mr. Pfeiffer (no relation of Fr. Pfeiffer) is an attorney and was fighting a legal battle Fr. Pfeiffer and Mr. Hernandez (aka Pablo) filed against him for statements he made against Fr. Roberts.  As far as I know the case is still ongoing. (it is discussed on cathinfo somewhere).

    Perhaps Mr. Pfeiffer would be willing to help you find where the funds went and get a casket exhumed.

    What priest owns properties????

    Roberts works under Fr. Pfeiffer in AZ now.

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #219 on: January 24, 2022, 06:40:01 AM »
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  • Herein is the reason Father Starbuck was not present for the 2021 Christmas Masses at OLHC. This is the actual sermon he gave at the 7:30 and 10:00 a.m. Masses Sunday December 19th at OLHC.

    However, before the following sermon, here is some shocking history of what occurred at the December 19th 7:30 a.m. Mass.  A "man" who violently banged on the confession door while Father was hearing confessions was no other than the usher from the 7:30 a.m. Mass "Joel Iddings." MR. IDDINGS IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE OLHC SCHOOL BOARD!  He yelled at Father "YOU ARE NOT TO GIVE THAT SERMON AT THE NEXT 10:00 MASS!"  Father was terrorized by this psychological "assault."*  Father actually felt threatened and fearful by this individual's brutal aggression against him.  Mr. Iddings then  ripped the mike out of its stand on the pulpit before the 10:00 a.m. Mass so Father would not be able to give this sermon again (contained within).  Bravely, Father gave it anyway.

    Sources in the parish had informed me that this individual had ordered Father Starbuck to not come on church property (after December 19th) and to not attempt to say the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass at all this coming Christmas week!  In addition, Mr. Iddings then threatened that if Father Starbuck were to come on the property of OLHC again, he would personally see to it that Father would be arrested for trespassing! The injustice and nerve of this "man" who knew that Father Starbuck had faithfully served in the "Chapel" for 15 years and to threaten Father like this mere days before Christmas is the most cruel Un-Catholic sacrilegious "Judas" act of betrayal!!

    Assault Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

    "Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

    "The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action (like viciously banging on the door of the confessional while Father is hearing confessions) that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist [or like violently banging on the door of a confessional while a priest is hearing confession] might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim.  Intent is an essential element of assault. In tort law, it can be specific intent—if the assailant intends to cause the apprehension of harmful or offensive contact in the victim—or general intent—if he or she intends to do the act that causes such apprehension. In addition, the intent element is satisfied if it is substantially certain, to a reasonable person, that the act will cause the result."
    This despicable "man"  "Joel Iddings" sacrilegious act must be held accountable for the  "psychological assault" he perpetrated against Father Starbuck!

    What makes this "psychological assault" even more treacherous is that Father is a gentle, Christ-like, charitable, loving and giving priest!

    Why was today's live-streamed 10 a.m. Mass blacked out? Below is the sermon given by Father Starbuck at the 7:30 Mass. He also gave it at the 10 a.m. Mass which was to be live-streamed on You Tube.

    Again, Father did give the sermon, however for unexplained reasons, the sermon was not videotaped and live-streamed at the usual 10 a.m. Mass as it always is. 

    Here is the actual sermon Fr. Starbuck gave on Sunday 19 December 2021:

    "I had a sermon prepared for this morning. However,there are some matters of business that do not allow ofdeferral. Therefore, I will present that sermon at a later time.

    I have always tried to be truthful and to do the right thing. And sometimes I have paid a price for that. But please know this about me: I will always try to be honest with you and to fulfill my commitment to you as a public servant and as a priest. I want to begin by saying that these past five weeks of my life have been like no others. My vocation is not a job. It demands my every moment, and my every commitment, but this is especially so these past few weeks. And this on top
    of so much recent loss. I have given 15 years now ofmy life to this parish (a quarter of my life), and I was hoping to spend the remainder of my years here. I still hope that is possible. Over these years, I have rolled with the punches, & endured intricate/delicate, indeed,often complex situations. I have held my own. But when Fr. Perez died, there was only one person here who would rightfully have pastoral seniority to succeed him; and, like it or not, that is me.

    But shortly after Fr. Perez’s death, a lay board rose up asserting its legal authority to appoint the next “pastor” of this parish. Iwant to be clear in stating that (w/o pointing a finger at them) this is Lutheranism pure and simple. Laypeople could never have the ecclesial power or jurisdiction to appoint or create a pastor. That they may have a legal right is not the same as having a divine right. And while there are fine people on this board who engender
    my complete respect, the cohesion and leadership of this lay incorporation has been problematic. Nor do I see it being able to work. I did make it clear that I will not serve under another “pastor.” At the same time, I have wanted to  facilitate the transition that the church is undergoing at least through the end of the year. That has been my desire.

    I do not take my marching orders from laypeople. And I cannot, as a priest, answer to competing voices on a lay board.
    And moreover, as a priest, my credibility, leadership,and moral responsibility could be jeopardized if a
    situation not yet addressed in this parish is allowed to continue. My continuous requests for the vetting of priests serving in this parish have not & are not being met. We have had a couple of “priests” coming through here whose ordination I found questionable (based on information that later became available), and we have had at least one priest who had no business being here. Yes, mistakes were made (albeit, not on my part), and we should have learned from them.

    Five years ago, I proposed to Fr. Perez the following specific requirements of any priest serving in this parish. And they are the following:

    1. A criminal background check with ID, performed by a reputable third party, meeting state complacency. Also, the background check that I am requesting is not just a clearance check. It must consist of a positive trace of the person’s history.

    2. References.

    3. A chronological work history.

    4. Proof of ordination. And I want to know the ordaining bishop, seminary, and formational contacts. And just for your information, as a Dominican I underwent thorough background checks and continuous vetting over a period of seven years. And I lived under a virtual microscope 24 hours a day during that time. Moreover, my background is not hidden. My formation and ordination can be found on the Internet. They are public.

    Of note, a request that I made of Fr. Perez last summer got dragged out, & and was never completed. And if I do not say something now, this situation will never be addressed. Let me ask a question. If you hired someone to work on your house, would you not want references? Or if you sent your children to a day care center, would you not want references? This is the house of God. Can we be any less responsible?

    So here is what I am asking: A priest is a public person. Let me repeat that: A priest is a public person. Therefore, with due respect to all parties involved & a presumption of good will on the part of all, I am asking that the vetting of Fr. Wiest be completed, and that the results of that vetting process, including proof of ordination be made public.

    The problem is that there is no public life of any Fr.Michael Wiest (I know this in part, not just because it cannot be found on the internet, but because I actually had a professional investigator call me one day to inform me of this. He was completely puzzled.) there is no public life of any Fr. Michael Wiest who was born in Chicago, ordained in Italy, and who served in any parish or diocese during these past 30 or so years.

    There is no public record of ministry. There is no record of pastoral assignments. In short, there is no
    such public person. And the fact that there is no such public person does not just amount to an absence of information, it amounts to a fact that demands explanation. It is a problem. And for this reason many in this parish question his ordination. For his own benefit we need to answer this  question. And we need to know the credentials of any priest serving in this parish. That is not asking too much.

    Finally, while I do not acknowledge the ecclesial authority of a lay board, if one is to exist, it must be cohesive, charitable, and committed to the principles of the Catholic faith. And if the parishioners of this church are unhappy with this arrangement, perhaps they need to consider another option, perhaps the appointment of a new board which they feel represents them. But with all due respect, I just do not see this lay board being able to resolve effectively the problems this parish faces, or to find a clear path forward. And FYI, this lay board represents the interests of the school (PPA) and not of the church.

    Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this
    church. May I remind you of some of the problems of this Missal (?):
    Revised rite of Holy Week. The famous writer Evelyn Waugh considered the revision of Holy Week to be an extremely disappointing loss.

    The introduction of red on Good Friday and Communion of the faithful were arbitrary and capricious, and miss the fundamental (essential) point of the liturgy (i.e., the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified). It omits Second Confiteor.  It omits numerous octaves, and accordingly significant vigils.

    It omits significant feasts, such as January 1: (the Feast of the Circuмcision). The theological
    significance: Christ is the fulfillment of the law!
    It introduces the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker (as a concession to the tenets of socialism)  It omits Commemorations.

    The Passion Narrative during Holy Week is considered to be the Gospel reading. A theological fiction.  Feasts of important saints are haphazardly &arbitrarily moved, making it confusing even to a priest to follow this new ordo.  Feasts of historically momentous saints are suppressed.
    St. Joseph is introduced to the Canon. Notably: This is the only change to the Canon since the time of St. Gregory the Great. Why such an introduction? And if
    this is admitted, then any change can be made to the Canon of the Mass. And the theological significance: St. Joseph was not a martyr, an exception to the list of those saints who appear in the Canon.

    It is inadequate to argue that there are no doctrinal problems with this Missal, as does the SSPX. It is a deviation from the lex orandi, it is theologically iinadequate, & it is misguided in numerous respect

    And even if you believe that the 1962 Roman Missal is okay, how could we serve the needs of this parish in requiring people to attend daily Mass with two missals, perhaps not knowing which priest is celebrating that day, not to mention the cost to those with less money?

    And finally, finding a priest who observes and understands tradition in the same way as Fr. Perez and myself is a virtually impossible task. You will likely either encounter a sedevacantist or a modernist (who says: “Yes I celebrate the traditional ‘extraordinary form of the Roman rite’ in Latin.”, as if there could be such thing). So I advise a great note of caution in introducing any priest to this parish.

    These are my concerns. You may respond as you see fitting & appropriate. However we proceed going forward, I call for civility & charity, for listening and understanding, and for a prayerful and thoughtful approach from all parties involved.

    Finally, while it is not my custom, I am willing to make a transcript of these words available in a PDF file for circulation, so that my words are clear for everyone’s understanding, for those who are absent, and for the public record. I do not have the time to send this out as a response to every email inquiry. But if someone could assist me in making it available, I am glad to provide a PDF file for circulation."




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    « Reply #220 on: January 24, 2022, 10:50:03 AM »
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  • pretty damning evidence.
    sounds like you have done the work for me.
    please post the data.

    should be easy enough to get a body exhumed to see if there is someone in fulhams casket or not.

    also  if friends of st. Michael's was a 501c3, all their records are required to be open to the public.  who the funds went to should be listed somewhere.

    Mr. Pfeiffer (no relation of Fr. Pfeiffer) is an attorney and was fighting a legal battle Fr. Pfeiffer and Mr. Hernandez (aka Pablo) filed against him for statements he made against Fr. Roberts.  As far as I know the case is still ongoing. (it is discussed on cathinfo somewhere).

    Perhaps Mr. Pfeiffer would be willing to help you find where the funds went and get a casket exhumed.

    What priest owns properties????

    Roberts works under Fr. Pfeiffer in AZ now.
    start with the search box here on Cath Info: Wiest  Weist Fulham


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    « Reply #221 on: January 24, 2022, 12:51:59 PM »
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  • should be easy enough to get a body exhumed to see if there is someone in fulhams casket or not.


    :confused::confused::confused: If you sneak in at night and dig him up yourself it's pretty easy, but to do it legally is another matter entirely. You would either need the permission of the (alleged) decedent's next of kin or a criminal case in which a judge orders an exhumation.

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    « Reply #222 on: January 24, 2022, 06:50:49 PM »
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  • For pity's sake would somebody just call the police instead of dragging this out? 

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    « Reply #223 on: January 25, 2022, 08:51:41 PM »
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  • Could CI member SUPPORTFRSTARBUCK please stop posting the same post over and over again on the same three OLHC threads! We get it, we see it, WE KNOW. The threads aren’t going to die there’s too many people wanting to know the truth and are following the story. Just please bring us some new information or don’t bother posting! It makes it useless to check knowing it’s the same thing again and again :facepalm:

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    « Reply #224 on: January 26, 2022, 11:41:28 AM »
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  • For pity's sake would somebody just call the police instead of dragging this out?
    AMEN!!  It must be someone who attends/attended the chapel/school.
    Call the police, the attorney generals office, the CA school board, or any/all of these agencies:
    https://advokids.org/protect-california-children/

    https://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/ss/ap/

    https://protectourkidsnow.org/

    https://www.alliancetpc.org/

    https://www.thesotolawgroup.com/estate-planning/protect-your-kids/

    There are so many other organizations you can call to out the heat on olhc.