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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #165 on: November 14, 2021, 12:28:23 AM »
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    • It is a picture of Karol Wojtyła, better known as John Paul II. While it is debatable if he was the Pope, there is little doubt that he was validly ordained a Priest.
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    « Reply #166 on: November 14, 2021, 12:48:52 AM »
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    • You're completely missing the point of proof.  According to you we need to check his family & creds.  So you believe that Wiest is a priest?  That's fine - the rest of us don't. 
    So that's Karol W.  So what?  How does that figure in with Wiest?
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    « Reply #167 on: November 14, 2021, 07:49:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 13, 2021, 08:50:26 PM
    How much more proof will some people need to realize that Mr. Wiest is NOT a priest & shouldn't be called Fr.?  or "Fr."  It's a slap in the face to true priests so stop it.
    So, you found him in lay clothing last year and he was found a very few years ago OPENING a buddhist junk shop (God knows how long it lasted).  Not proof enough, in my mind that he is not a priest.

    A decade or more ago I went on a little vacation.  I met a very nice man and we talked at length about the Catholic Church.  He was a maronite Catholic.  Near the end of our conversation he told me he was a priest!  He said he always wears lay clothing while on vacation so he is not inundated with people asking for this and that, much like a celebrity.  He said he normally wears a cassock.

    So, Wiest may have the same idea...

    I am not saying he IS a priest, and I am not saying he ISN'T.  I am only saying there is still some doubt.

    His having OPENED a Buddhist junk shop a very few years ago is more proof to me than the lay clothing last year, and even then it is STILL possible he is a priest.  How many priests did b. slupski ordain without so much as year of training?

    His Buddhist altar in his home is real cause for concern, but that is also not proof he is not a priest. 

    What the rhubarb, junk shop, altar, refusing to provide docuмentation, etc does prove is that he is someone to stay away from.

    You need more concrete proof before calling him "Mr.", for if you are mistaken think of the detraction and scandal you have caused.

    (And no, I am not Wiest.  I am the one who found his Buddhist junk shop.)
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    « Reply #168 on: November 14, 2021, 08:31:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 23, 2021, 06:49:08 PM
    I apologize - It's Tradition In Action that is friends with Perez  & not Traditio. :fryingpan:    I'm very sorry & hope I caught this in time before too many read it.
    Not to worry, the errors in this thread are myriad. 
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    « Reply #169 on: November 14, 2021, 12:44:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 13, 2021, 08:50:26 PM
    How much more proof will some people need to realize that Mr. Wiest is NOT a priest & shouldn't be called Fr.?  or "Fr."  It's a slap in the face to true priests so stop it.
    Agreed. Also, we know his pattern for lying.

    He refuses to show any docuмentation that he is a priest.

    He wants to work with altar boys alone but refuses to show his drivers license so his records can be checked.

    He was posing as a layman months before he arrived at OLHC and no records exist anywhere of a priest with the name he is currently using. Not only is he unable to prove he is Fr. Wiest; he cannot even prove he is Mr. Michael Wiest.

    Either he lying about meeting Fr. Perez in Rome and staying with him for several days or he was lying when he changed his story to having met him in a small town outside Florence on his way to Slovakia and spending one night.

    He was caught in another lie when he misquoted Our Lady of Fatima as saying the miracle of the Sun would happen again. She never said that. He then went on to say that he himself had seen this miracle the week prior to his sermon.

    He was caught in another lie when he said the Buddhist altar in his home was not an altar, but rather a family heirloom, a museum piece. Others have researched the components of an altar to worship the false god Buddha and his altar checks all the boxes: mirror to communicate with the dead ancestors, the white candles, flowers and the antique Chinese table on which his pagan altar rests.

    His other lies are well-docuмented on this thread, which raises the question. Why should we believe the rumors that he has Covid and is in Anaheim Memorial Hospital? Someone called the hospital last week and he was not a patient there. So where is he?

    Also someone is spreading lies about Father Starbuck. Hmm, might this be him?
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    « Reply #170 on: November 14, 2021, 02:28:54 PM »
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    • A minor point also --  In one of his sermons he said that discalced means 'no socks'!! I kid you not!!  The man is not a priest.
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    « Reply #171 on: November 15, 2021, 10:39:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 14, 2021, 08:31:45 AM
    Not to worry, the errors in this thread are myriad.
    Except for the photographic evidence
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #172 on: November 15, 2021, 10:58:09 AM »
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    • On another thread, I posted this:



    Late-night ER visit: forced to wait outside in cold night air with COPD
    « on: October 26, 2021, 01:17:56 PM »

    Last night at 9:30 p.m., I was driven to the ER and taken to the outdoor check-in area in a wheelchair while on supplemental oxygen.

    When asked about the vaccination, I said I had natural immunity because I had recovered from covid. As a result, my caretaker and I were forced to wait outside. For the two hours we were there, 40 people who came after us were screened and allowed to go indoors where it was warm and well-lit with comfortable seating and clean bathrooms.

    It was dark, damp, cold and had a filthy outhouse. IOW, we were discriminated against on the basis of our religious objection to the abortion-tainted vaccine.
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    This incident occurred at Kaiser Anaheim, the same hospital where UNVACCINATED Father Starbuck was NOT permitted to give Extreme Unction to Father Perez. This is the same exact hospital policy which affected me. NO ONE is permitted into the wards, nor into the ER without a vaccine.

    Father Starbuck argued and talked to supervisors and administrators to try to get in to give the sacraments to Father Perez. Father Starbuck asked if Father Perez's bed could temporarily be moved to an area of the hospital unaffected by that policy. The hospital would not relent. It was left to a VACCINATED  priest to go in to give the sacraments.

    Calumny against Fr. Starbuck are now being spread by Wiest supporters. Their latest lie is that Father Starbuck was afraid to go into the hospital. They have no shame. They lie because their father is the father of lies.

    Please pray for Father Starbuck. Ever since his sermon last Sunday on calumny, they are attacking him with vengeance.
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    « Reply #173 on: November 15, 2021, 01:01:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 15, 2021, 10:58:09 AM
    On another thread, I posted this:



    Late-night ER visit: forced to wait outside in cold night air with COPD
    « on: October 26, 2021, 01:17:56 PM »

    Last night at 9:30 p.m., I was driven to the ER and taken to the outdoor check-in area in a wheelchair while on supplemental oxygen.

    When asked about the vaccination, I said I had natural immunity because I had recovered from covid. As a result, my caretaker and I were forced to wait outside. For the two hours we were there, 40 people who came after us were screened and allowed to go indoors where it was warm and well-lit with comfortable seating and clean bathrooms.

    It was dark, damp, cold and had a filthy outhouse. IOW, we were discriminated against on the basis of our religious objection to the abortion-tainted vaccine.
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    This incident occurred at Kaiser Anaheim, the same hospital where UNVACCINATED Father Starbuck was NOT permitted to give Extreme Unction to Father Perez. This is the same exact hospital policy which affected me. NO ONE is permitted into the wards, nor into the ER without a vaccine.

    Father Starbuck argued and talked to supervisors and administrators to try to get in to give the sacraments to Father Perez. Father Starbuck asked if Father Perez's bed could temporarily be moved to an area of the hospital unaffected by that policy. The hospital would not relent. It was left to a VACCINATED  priest to go in to give the sacraments.

    Calumny against Fr. Starbuck are now being spread by Wiest supporters. Their latest lie is that Father Starbuck was afraid to go into the hospital. They have no shame. They lie because their father is the father of lies.

    Please pray for Father Starbuck. Ever since his sermon last Sunday on calumny, they are attacking him with vengeance.
    You left out the role played by Tradition in Action, who are cheerleaders for Mr. Wiest and the root of lies being told about Fr. Starbuck. Other than TIA's involvement, how can it be explained that 3 weeks after Mr. Wiest came to OLHC, Mr. Wiest began telling chapel members "We need to get rid of Fr. Starbuck" (who has been serving OLHC for 14 years.) Their goal is to morph OLHC into a blend of Pfiefferville West along with a center for their Plinio cult complete with photos of Plinio and his mother prominently displayed along with Wednesday night devotions to Plinio's mother in a mockery of an authentic Litany to Our Lady. 
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    « Reply #174 on: November 15, 2021, 01:08:59 PM »
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #175 on: November 15, 2021, 01:13:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 14, 2021, 02:28:54 PM
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    A minor point also --  In one of his sermons he said that discalced means 'no socks'!! I kid you not!!  The man is not a priest.

    That's not a good sign.  I learned "calceamentum" (Latin for "shoe") by osmosis just being at the Seminary -- it must have been in one of the Psalms. Really, I didn't read the dictionary or use a "daily word in Latin" app -- there were no smartphones back then.

    This priest's Latin skills are in question.
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #176 on: November 15, 2021, 02:00:32 PM »
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    • "priest"??
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #177 on: November 15, 2021, 06:24:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on November 15, 2021, 01:13:19 PM
    This priest's Latin skills are in question.
    If only the problem were poor Latin. Continual lying, manipulation, gossiping, calumny, Buddha worship, posing as a layman or posing as a priest, claiming to have had apparitions as a child, claiming that Our Lady said something she did not say, claiming that he saw a "miracle" of the sun. These serious issues are destroying the chapel.
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #178 on: November 15, 2021, 06:46:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 14, 2021, 12:28:23 AM
    It is a picture of Karol Wojtyła, better known as John Paul II. While it is debatable if he was the Pope, there is little doubt that he was validly ordained a Priest.
    Pius XII made him auxiliary bishop of Krakow in 1958, surely one of the Pope's last appointments. The picture seems a clear example of the modern way Conciliar priests tend to hide their priesthood off duty, has a long precedent.
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    « Reply #179 on: November 15, 2021, 07:33:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 14, 2021, 12:48:52 AM
    You're completely missing the point of proof.  According to you we need to check his family & creds.  So you believe that Wiest is a priest?  That's fine - the rest of us don't. 
    So that's Karol W.  So what?  How does that figure in with Wiest?
    What you or I believe is irrelevant as to whether Wiest is or is not a Priest. The ONLY thing that determines that is if he was validly ordained, PERIOD.
    As to the point of the picture of JP2 in lay clothes: the "proof" that you gave had to do with Wiest in lay clothes and not identified as a Priest in the picture. JP2 is certainly a Priest (Bishop) and wearing lay clothes, and the other million scandalous things that he did, do not change that fact.
    Some things that are cause for alarm have been brought forward by you and others (thank you for that) but the reason that you are getting push-back from me about this is because you are ADAMANT that he is not only NOT a Priest, but that the rest of the world must hold your opinion as an absolute certainty as well. I hate to be the one to break it to you (not really, it's just a saying) but you haven't done enough investigation, or at least you haven't shared it with us, about his ordination, or lack thereof, to be certain about it. Much less do you have ANY authority to bind anyone else to your opinion. 
      You come across as either someone who doesn't understand distinctions very well or as someone with a personal grudge (against Wiest, Perez, or others) who is desperate to get revenge.

     
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