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Author Topic: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC  (Read 69464 times)

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #260 on: January 28, 2022, 06:17:53 PM »
When did I or anyone else say that Fr. Wiest should be trusted with anything, especially children?

The reason that I bothered to get into this in the first place is because of the adamant insistence of some that Fr. Wiest is definitely not a priest and MUST be addressed as Mr.

The priesthood does not belong to the man who has received it, it is from God Himself. So even if I wouldn't trust the guy to mow my lawn, the priesthood MUST be respected. Is what I am trying to say a bit clearer now?
Neither you, nor anyone else said that he should be trusted around children, I'm stating the fact is that he is around them. I made a statement, that people in position of authority should be subject to scrutiny before they are trusted around school children by themselves.

I agree with you, the priesthood must be respected and as such we should demand that anyone claiming to be a priest shows the same level of respect and reverence to the priesthood, presenting the proper docuмentation, identification and also by not having a buddhist shrine at home.

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #261 on: January 28, 2022, 06:18:33 PM »
 from Time Magazine Monday, Dec. 20, 1937
http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,758685,00.html

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U. S. religious cultsters, practicing esoteric arts for the weak in spirit and confused in mind, have their quota of quacks and racketeers, their full share of psychotics. Last week in Chicago an egregious religionist, who in his time had attracted the notice of both police and psychiatrists, was discovered by the Chicago Times (tabloid) to be "doing business at the same old stand." He was Giuseppe Maria Abbate, 51, onetime convict, onetime maniac, known to his 100-odd present followers as the "Celestial Messenger."

"Padre" Abbate's people believe that he was not born of mortal parents but formed from "the ashes of Jesus Christ." Once he crowned the small daughter of one of his Italian-born parishioners, Mrs. Grace Ippolita, as "the Virgin Mary," instructing his followers to worship her. In 1923 the "Celestial Messenger" was convicted of ravishing a small girl, was adjudged insane. Convicted later of two more attacks, Abbate was occasionally in jail but always turned loose because of his original insanity. In the Elgin State Hospital (Illinois), where he spent two years, clad in clerical garb, Abbate became a prime exhibit for psychology classes from Chicago universities, readily telling students of the messages and visions he experienced. Last week "Padre" Abbate was installed once more, surrounded by men and women in monastic robes, in a three-story house containing his church and living quarters. He posed for photographers, wearing vestments resembling a bishop's and a mitre bearing cabalistic words, with one of his tonsured "monks" by his side. He held services for his people, giving them "the sacraments," for, as his housekeeper explained, "we are really a Roman Catholic church although we are not under the Pope." But when the press began getting too inquisitive, "Padre" Abbate secreted himself, had a sign put on the door: For Members Only.



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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #262 on: January 28, 2022, 06:20:46 PM »
Abbate >  Schweikert >  Rematt > Wiest

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #263 on: January 28, 2022, 06:20:56 PM »
At one point Wiest claimed he was ordained in Italy, and now he is supposed to have been ordained by the “Old Catholics”?
Thank you for pointing that out. As the title says, more weirdness.

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #264 on: January 28, 2022, 06:31:09 PM »

Yeah, right.  He can't find his license!

Should be "Red Flag"the  suspicious behavior that the meeting was abruptly ended with the turning out the lights and told the meeting was over where obviously some people had questions?  Also, wasn't it suspicious that there was only 6 hours notice of a upcoming meeting at 7:00 p.m?

IF we indeed find out that this man is not a priest, shouldn't those of us who trusted in the leadership of OLHC ("The Board) be angry, outraged and horrified to think that we the faithful were unknowingly suckered into this lie? 

What about those of us who went to confession to this individual and to think of the  possibility that this individual might not be a priest?  Shouldn't there be some serious consequences paid by the ("School Board") and this "Fr." Michael Wiest?  To think that we went to confession to him and it was possibility-  a lie!  What about being suckered into believing he was a priest and we did not IN FACT receive the Body and Blood of Christ  (IF TRUE) because he is not a validly ordained priest?  Isn't this in some way criminal and at least grounds for a class action suit from the faithful of OLHC against ("The Board") and Wiest?  Any lawyers here??