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« Reply #195 on: November 18, 2021, 02:04:17 PM »
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  • Thank you for your balanced comment regarding OLHC and the Fr’s there.

    I have never been to this church, nor do I know any parishioners or the priests there. I have been following this story hoping it would pan out at some point, but some of the comments have been extremely vicious in nature, and many of the posts left a bad taste, so I found myself actually rooting for the underdogs.

    Honestly, if there had been even an ounce of charity in those who were posting their concerns about such things, there would be a lot more sympathy from others here.
    Sadly, those anonymous ones who are lacking that Catholic prudence and charity have shown that even after correction of their error, they refuse to learn, so this post will also fall on their deaf ears too.

    It is a tragedy Fr Perez was sick and now has passed away while this train wreck was going on over here. We can only hope it ends here and now.
    I sincerely pray that Fr Wiest has received the Last Sacraments and is on his way to recovery so he can have the chance to clear his name. Whether he chooses to or not is up to him, but while he is ill, and could be on deaths door, we all need to leave this alone.
    The people of this church have already lost Mass for a period of time. I hope they have an alternative chapel to get the Sacraments. 
    Thank you, I think that of all the posts on this subject that this is the best by far!

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #196 on: November 18, 2021, 02:37:17 PM »
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  • ..  Fr. Perez didn't want the rectory to be near the church - which is where it usually is & should be - & so he bought a large house for himself in another town several miles from the church!!

    The moral of this story is --  don't blame the School board for the mess at the church.  That was Fr. Perez's job & responsibility & he was too busy with worldly things to bother with it. 
    Um no, Fr. Perez never "bought a large house for himself." Father Perez lived in a trailer park for many years until his parents needed assistance. At that time he moved back to their family home to help both of them with their health problems. When one parent passed away and the other parent went up north to stay with Fr. Perez's sister, Fr. Perez stayed in his family home. Fr. Perez has repeatedly failed to vet priests who some to OLHC (pederast Colletti, Pfiefferville pseudo-priest, and now Mr. Wiest who refuses to show ordination papers.) But let's not make false charges against him.


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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #197 on: November 18, 2021, 03:03:22 PM »
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  • Fr. Perez has repeatedly failed to vet priests who some to OLHC (pederast Colletti, Pfiefferville pseudo-priest, and now Mr. Wiest who refuses to show ordination papers.) But let's not make false charges against him.
    The guy just died. Get on your broom and head back to your coven.

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #198 on: November 18, 2021, 05:09:07 PM »
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  • I checked the Deed to the house shortly after it was purchased & Fr. Perez's name & his parents names were on the Deed.  Now whether the parents paid the cash for it & Fr. paid nothing, the fact remains that his name is on the house & he wanted to live away from the church.  That was my main point.

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #199 on: November 18, 2021, 05:36:55 PM »
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  • Anon 2:37 where on earth did you get all that wrong info?!  Fr. Perez did live in a trailer park but did NOT move back to the family home as the family lived in San Jose!  His father passed away in San Jose & the mother & sister still live there.  Sentence 3 & 4 are completely wrong, as is the end part of the second sentence!!!!  Unbelievable.


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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #200 on: November 20, 2021, 04:03:19 PM »
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  • I haven't read every last thing on this thread, so please excuse me if this question was already answered, but who has Father Wiest refused to show his ordination papers to? Has anyone actually confronted Father Wiest? If so, what did he say? Did anyone talk to Father Perez or Starbuck about this issue? If so, what did they say? 
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #201 on: January 12, 2022, 09:52:44 PM »
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  • Apologies for bumping this thread, but there are the following two emails:

    bacchinale@hotmail.com
    bacchinale@yahoo.com


    Apparently tied to a Michael Wiest with addresses in both Phoenix, AZ and Three Oak, MI.


    Arizona address is listed as 11029 N 42nd St, Phoenix, Az.


    There is an image of a car on Google Street View. Image is dated as January 2021.


    Is the image of the car, shown below, at all familiar?



    Nuwber Fact File photo:

    https://cdn.nuwber.com/fact-file/Michael-Wiest-563a2456a219445d526eb923.png


    Nuwber website with information:


    https://nuwber.com/person/563a2456a219445d526eb923




















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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #202 on: January 12, 2022, 10:06:12 PM »
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  • Interesting that two of those email addresses have his name spelled with "ei" instead of "ie". 

    I believe the correct spelling of his name is Wiest, not Weist. The photos posted on these threads of him in the antique shop in Michigan are all of a Michael Wiest, as well as the other background information. 



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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #203 on: January 12, 2022, 10:31:40 PM »
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  • Just by chance I was listening to one of the taped OLHC masses, and "Fr." Wiest stated the following:


    Time stamp at 25:01



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    On the day of my ordination in Rome, in 1997, I had holy cards printed. . .




    OLHC - 4th Sunday after Easter


    https://youtu.be/nWdq02PI7fA?t=1501



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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #204 on: January 12, 2022, 10:34:34 PM »
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  • Interesting that two of those email addresses have his name spelled with "ei" instead of "ie".

    I believe the correct spelling of his name is Wiest, not Weist. The photos posted on these threads of him in the antique shop in Michigan are all of a Michael Wiest, as well as the other background information.

    Uh... that might be, but I would do some research to confirm this Fr. Weist/Wiest is really a priest. You don't want to be attending "masses" where you worship bread, and heaven help you if you go to "confession" with a mortal sin on your soul! 

    I don't think your rebuttal is strong enough to cast aside fears and doubts about this "priest" who could very well be a layman. Caveat emptor.
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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #205 on: January 13, 2022, 08:08:35 AM »
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  • Apologies for bumping this thread, but there are the following two emails:

    bacchinale@hotmail.com
    bacchinale@yahoo.com


    Apparently tied to a Michael Wiest with addresses in both Phoenix, AZ and Three Oak, MI.


    Arizona address is listed as 11029 N 42nd St, Phoenix, Az.


    There is an image of a car on Google Street View. Image is dated as January 2021.


    Is the image of the car, shown below, at all familiar?



    Nuwber Fact File photo:

    https://cdn.nuwber.com/fact-file/Michael-Wiest-563a2456a219445d526eb923.png


    Nuwber website with information:


    https://nuwber.com/person/563a2456a219445d526eb923














    If you look at the link you posted, it lists 
    Associated people

    Wayne L Wight (2016)


    if you click on that name, it lists 
    Wayne L Wight from Itasca, IL

    Age: 60 years old

    Also known as:
     

    Mr Wayne L Wiest, Mr Wayne Wiest

    brother?
    Maybe Wiest's real name is Wight?

    If you look at the email addresses listed:
    Email addresses

    bacchinale@hotmail.com
    bacchinale@yahoo.com
    mewiest_esq@yahoo.com
    mweist@aol.com
    mweist@juno.com



    "esq"?  did he present himself as an attorney at some time?


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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #206 on: January 13, 2022, 09:03:28 AM »
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  • That Arizona home @ 11029 N 42nd st. Is owned by the estate of Norman Lee Wiest and Lorraine Wiest.
    Both deceased, and they had a Son named Michael. 
    One more piece of the puzzle.

    Though I know nothing of this chapel, all the correspondence here leads me to believe the root issue is that Wiest has has managed to back the board into a corner from which they cannot extricate themselves without huge exposure to liability.
    IOW, he now "owns' them.

    BTW, an email beginning containing "bacchinale" ought to be screaming alarm bells all over.

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #207 on: January 13, 2022, 11:52:05 AM »
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  • Uh... that might be, but I would do some research to confirm this Fr. Weist/Wiest is really a priest. You don't want to be attending "masses" where you worship bread, and heaven help you if you go to "confession" with a mortal sin on your soul!

    I don't think your rebuttal is strong enough to cast aside fears and doubts about this "priest" who could very well be a layman. Caveat emptor.
    I didn't intend my post to be any kind of a "rebuttal". Nothing of the sort. Just pointing out the confusing cloud that seems to hover over WiestNo, his real name is Michael WIEST and that's been pretty firmly established in the three or four threads that are dealing with this issue. The man pictured in the antique shop in Three Oaks, Michigan in 2015 is without a doubt the same "Fr." Wiest who is now at OLHC. He says himself in the story linked below that he owned another shop between 2008-2010 and presumedly owned the Eclipse shop from 2010 onward, at least until 2015. 

    I simply want to know where he went to seminary, when he was ordained, and BY WHOM he was ordained. That's vital information that all these people who attend Mass there etc really should be able to know. We don't have priests in the Catholic Church with secret histories, except when they're ministering in persecuted nations under deep cover. Garden Grove doesn't apply there.

    Just clear it up and make it public. What's the problem with that simple request??

    https://www.harborcountry-news.com/features/eclipse-shop-in-three-oaks-filled-with-treasures/article_63387aae-97f5-5004-b9bc-710fdf373563.html


    https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/harborcountry-news.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/90/e90f67de-d862-5b7c-8a86-30d5f3328fc7/584b3b29d25db.image.jpg

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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #208 on: January 13, 2022, 12:00:28 PM »
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  • Just to add to my post above: I would love to do some research into his history as a priest, but there's absolutely NOTHING available anywhere to answer these questions. Nothing. Zip, zero, nada. 

    As I've said before, it's a simple matter for the chapel to clear this up. Either he has a docuмented history as a priest, or not. The only thing publicly available besides names, phone numbers, and the like, is his history as the owner of an antique shop in Michigan, and a photo of him at some county fair holding a rhubarb.


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    Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
    « Reply #209 on: January 13, 2022, 01:17:19 PM »
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  • Just by chance I was listening to one of the taped OLHC masses, and "Fr." Wiest stated the following:


    Time stamp at 25:01
    On the day of my ordination in Rome, in 1997, I had holy cards printed. .

    OLHC - 4th Sunday after Easter

    https://youtu.be/nWdq02PI7fA?t=1501
    Nothing he says is to be trusted.
    He has repeatedly contradicted himself from the pulpit.
     
    His age was 48,
    no 58.

    He had testicular cancer his last year of high school,
    no it was his last year of law school at Yale.

    He first met Father Perez in Rome when he had nowhere to stay,
    no he first met Father Perez in a small town 30 minutes east of Florence on his way to Slovakia.