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Author Topic: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC  (Read 70373 times)

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #185 on: November 16, 2021, 04:19:16 PM »
May God have mercy on you if it turns out that you, Anonymous, are the one spreading the lies.
Are you a member of OLHC?
Do you even know what the lies being spread are?
Did you listen to Father Starbuck's sermon on calumny?
Have you looked at the docuмents and photographic evidence on this thread?

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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #186 on: November 16, 2021, 04:19:51 PM »


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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #187 on: November 16, 2021, 06:19:24 PM »
Are you a member of OLHC?
Do you even know what the lies being spread are?
Did you listen to Father Starbuck's sermon on calumny?
Have you looked at the docuмents and photographic evidence on this thread?
Your first three questions are irrelevant and/or dodging the crux of the matter.

Yes, out of sheer morbid curiosity I have read all the posts and looked at the evidence, not only in this thread, but in the numerous others that have been created as well.

The question that is the crux of all these threads is simple: is Wiest a Priest? As I explained yesterday the ONLY thing that determines whether Wiest is a Priest or not is if he was validly ordained. PERIOD. It wouldn't matter if you had a picture of him wearing a pink tutu; has the man been validly ordained?

I do not hold an opinion about Wiest's ordination, or lack thereof, I require solid evidence to make a judgement. Some of the things that have been posted should make everyone at least a bit suspicious of him, but nothing brought forward so far supports demanding that everyone call him "Mr.".

Claims have been repeatedly made that Weist refuses to show docuмentation or discuss the matter.
Claims have been repeatedly made that Perez neglected to obtain proof of Wiest's ordination.
Many claims, but when questioned whether you have personally asked for proof, you don't give a direct yes or no, you just complain about how hard Perez is to talk to or some other lame excuse. From that I have to conclude that the true answer is "no, I have not personally, directly asked Wiest or Perez for proof".

I entered into this when you publicly labelled Wiest an "orgy fan" and an "orgy lover". The only "proof" that you presented to support this claim is two e-mail addresses attributed to Wiest from an internet search. As I stated at the time, I searched my own name and found errors, including an erroneous e-mail address. If you want another example of how erroneous an internet search can be find the thread where someone searched Matthew's name and the results were way off. (it was something like, Matthew has a dozen employees and assets in the millions).
I bring this up to demonstrate that you are very prone to making serious accusations without sufficient evidence to support them. At some point that practice becomes a serious sin and I'm not going to encourage you to sin nor turn a blind eye to it.
Now I don't know if you are just emotionally overwrought and unable to think clearly or if you are malicious. If it is an emotional problem I pray that our Lord, through our Lady, grant you healing.
If you are malicious: Ipse Venena Bibas



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Re: More weirdness from “Fr.” Michael Wiest at OLHC
« Reply #188 on: November 16, 2021, 07:52:11 PM »
Your first three questions are irrelevant and/or dodging the crux of the matter.

Yes, out of sheer morbid curiosity I have read all the posts and looked at the evidence, not only in this thread, but in the numerous others that have been created as well.

The question that is the crux of all these threads is simple: is Wiest a Priest? As I explained yesterday the ONLY thing that determines whether Wiest is a Priest or not is if he was validly ordained. PERIOD. It wouldn't matter if you had a picture of him wearing a pink tutu; has the man been validly ordained?

I do not hold an opinion about Wiest's ordination, or lack thereof, I require solid evidence to make a judgement. Some of the things that have been posted should make everyone at least a bit suspicious of him, but nothing brought forward so far supports demanding that everyone call him "Mr.".

Claims have been repeatedly made that Weist refuses to show docuмentation or discuss the matter.
Claims have been repeatedly made that Perez neglected to obtain proof of Wiest's ordination.
Many claims, but when questioned whether you have personally asked for proof, you don't give a direct yes or no, you just complain about how hard Perez is to talk to or some other lame excuse. From that I have to conclude that the true answer is "no, I have not personally, directly asked Wiest or Perez for proof".

I entered into this when you publicly labelled Wiest an "orgy fan" and an "orgy lover". The only "proof" that you presented to support this claim is two e-mail addresses attributed to Wiest from an internet search. As I stated at the time, I searched my own name and found errors, including an erroneous e-mail address. If you want another example of how erroneous an internet search can be find the thread where someone searched Matthew's name and the results were way off. (it was something like, Matthew has a dozen employees and assets in the millions).
I bring this up to demonstrate that you are very prone to making serious accusations without sufficient evidence to support them. At some point that practice becomes a serious sin and I'm not going to encourage you to sin nor turn a blind eye to it.
Now I don't know if you are just emotionally overwrought and unable to think clearly or if you are malicious. If it is an emotional problem I pray that our Lord, through our Lady, grant you healing.
If you are malicious: Ipse Venena Bibas
I tend to agree with you on this one.

However, the evidence is enough for me to say that Wiest is certainly someone to avoid 100%, priest or not.

It also seems to me that Fr. Perez needs to vet who he allows on the altar more carefully.  That is, if he has any say in the matter, as he may be controlled by the "board".

Fr. Schell never liked the idea of a "board", God rest his soul, but he saw no way around it.

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More crap nobody cares about.
« Reply #189 on: November 16, 2021, 08:35:40 PM »
Fixed this one for you too.