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Re: Modesty and Exercise
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2026, 07:15:36 AM »
Thank you. What is the moral principle behind your response?
Is the action done to provoke or arouse sensual desires or would normal cause sinful desires if observed? If yes, is the action done necessary for medical reasons or to prevent injury or harm that cannot be done otherwise?

Bathing, medical exams, surgery, certain exercises, etc. may require immodesty or immodest positions, but in all cases the purpose is not to feel or provoke the sinful desires, although that may be an unintentional side effect, but due to necessity the action is not sinful. So, for surgery, the Doctor does not sin in seeing the nude body however, if he consents to the pleasure then he does sin, but he does not sin by putting himself in that situation. 

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Re: Modesty and Exercise
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2026, 09:53:14 AM »
Is the action done to provoke or arouse sensual desires or would normal cause sinful desires if observed? If yes, is the action done necessary for medical reasons or to prevent injury or harm that cannot be done otherwise?

Bathing, medical exams, surgery, certain exercises, etc. may require immodesty or immodest positions, but in all cases the purpose is not to feel or provoke the sinful desires, although that may be an unintentional side effect, but due to necessity the action is not sinful. So, for surgery, the Doctor does not sin in seeing the nude body however, if he consents to the pleasure then he does sin, but he does not sin by putting himself in that situation.
Thank you, this sounds reasonable!


Re: Modesty and Exercise
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2026, 12:36:35 PM »
You people are truly so stupid. 

It is OBVIOUS to any normal humble person seeking to do the will of God that we must be modest in our actions, speech and mannerisms. This is what should SET CHRISTIANS APART from world lings.

Calling this puritanical is a cover because you are a BAD PERSON. and a LAZY CHRISTIAN.

What you are trying to say is something about PRIORITIES, which I agree with. No point worry about certain things, when we can't do other things etc. etc. I get that much. But don't knock others who are sincere and more virtuous than you and more earnest than you.

When we teach children about virtue, they get things wrong because they can't see the bigger picture. But their pure intention is correct. And reading the lives of the saints we can see that if we want to be saints, we have to carry our cross. 

Intemperate fools dont just come in non christian crude forms, they also come as trads, who want to drag us all down to their worldly attachments and boisterous immodesty, in their actions. (often prideful sanguines and Cholerics) 

Re: Modesty and Exercise
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2026, 12:42:33 PM »
I get that because the Christian life is long and arduous we can enter into dark nights of the soul and even fall back slightly. 
I have very sympathy for this and have been there myself so many times.

However when we meet someone, online or in person who we can see has the original pure intention as us in our early days, we should HUMBLE OURSELVES and learn from their zeal while maintaining our wisdom and imparting it onto them, because they do not have it. And not try to knock them and run them down because we are secretly jealous.

Watch over ourselves in terms of all vices especially envy which is one of the seven DEADLY sins dont forget. 

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Re: Modesty and Exercise
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2026, 12:51:57 PM »
I'll admit I've heard this before, but it's still ridiculous. It's giving puritan vibes. The idea that you can turn yourself on or tempt yourself (with your own body) while bathing, etc. is ridiculous. Even others of the same sex are 0% tempting to me.


I forgot to add, I heard this before, but from a scrupulous person. Important point I left out.