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Re: Modest attire for men
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:28:46 PM »
 Heat intolerance is a sign of adrenal dysfunction.
For some people that may be true. However there can be other causes such as those with Pulmonary Hypertension who suffer from heat intolerance and have difficulty breathing.

see this
https://pulmonaryhypertensionnews.com/forums/forums/topic/is-the-summer-heat-too-much-to-handle/

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Re: Modest attire for men
« Reply #11 on: Today at 01:29:57 PM »
better link regarding heat intolerance:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24816966/


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Re: Modest attire for men
« Reply #12 on: Today at 02:45:19 PM »



His lower legs look bare from what I can see.

There's working in the heat, then WORKING in the heat. When working on my own time, I take my time like an old man, but when much work needs done for business, I often work at or near maximum exertion. Overheating can start to become an effort limiting factor for me around 45-65F depending on if it's cloudy or sunny, without using shorter, more breathable clothing.

I do think modern clothing design & materials is a problem.

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Re: Modest attire for men
« Reply #13 on: Today at 03:27:57 PM »
Short sleeves as in mid bicep? Or less than that? In what ways do you find it distracting? How tight is tight fitting as well? Example, a regular workout shirt might get tight around the chest when doing a workout to the point that the shape of the chest is visibly defined through the shirt yet without a workout it's loose enough that it's not shaped.

Thin material, do you mean stuff that contours against the body? Or shirts that can be transparent like a white shirt? I find thin is quite useful in hot humid weather. As for shorts how short? Below the knee? Above?

When you say unbuttoning a shirt, is this more than just the neck button? I typically do not button the top most button if I do not wear a tie, it looks off to me.
Mid bicep or higher. Men's shirts used to always have long sleeves, and if shorter they reached the elbow, so it seems prudent to observe that as much as possible. In my worldly days, I recall me and other girls, when remarking on the attractiveness of a man, we would almost invariably focus on the biceps, sort of like how worldly men tend to focus on the backside of women or their chest. The arms and chest represent strength and vigour and can easily lead women to think too much about the particular virility of the man, suggesting lustful thoughts and images. Again, this is experience from hearing lots of other women in my worldly days.

Tight, meaning where there is little to no mystery left. When certain movements tighten on certain parts of the body when the clothing is otherwise loose, that is somewhat normal, and happens with women too when bending over, reaching upwards, etc. It is incuмbent upon those around to avert their eyes away when things like this happen, it cannot be entirely avoided; we are not expected to walk around in potato sacks.

Thin meaning transparent, and/or when, as I said above, there is little to no mystery left about the person's body. It's difficult to give a precise answer, because of the variability of fabrics used in clothing, and the styles. The returning principle should be that modesty is about hiding the particular details of the human body in order to respect the consequences of original sin, while still appearing according to one's sex.

Shorts are more childish than anything else, but if there is an occasion of sin for women, it would more likely be the very short ones. The lower than mid-thigh but above knee-length ones that old men wear golfing, for example, can be immodest in certain sitting positions; because it is loose fitting, one can see far up the leg sometimes. 

If there is truly a legitimate, morally permissible need to show more skin than would normally be prudent, I believe God would preserve those of good will walking by from falling into sin, and every person has a duty themselves to practice custody of the eyes anyways. The context in which the human body is more visible also matters. A wounded soldier bleeding out with his shirt off should not cause a female nurse to sin, for example.

As for unbuttoning a shirt, I am referring to when men leave them undone about 2-3 buttons with a bare chest showing. I have seen that look in men who are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, or certainly act like it, or who are known for their public sins of lust.

Hopefully this is helpful, please feel free to ask more questions as needed.

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Re: Modest attire for men
« Reply #14 on: Today at 04:23:53 PM »
Mid bicep or higher. Men's shirts used to always have long sleeves, and if shorter they reached the elbow, so it seems prudent to observe that as much as possible. In my worldly days, I recall me and other girls, when remarking on the attractiveness of a man, we would almost invariably focus on the biceps, sort of like how worldly men tend to focus on the backside of women or their chest. The arms and chest represent strength and vigour and can easily lead women to think too much about the particular virility of the man, suggesting lustful thoughts and images. Again, this is experience from hearing lots of other women in my worldly days.

Tight, meaning where there is little to no mystery left. When certain movements tighten on certain parts of the body when the clothing is otherwise loose, that is somewhat normal, and happens with women too when bending over, reaching upwards, etc. It is incuмbent upon those around to avert their eyes away when things like this happen, it cannot be entirely avoided; we are not expected to walk around in potato sacks.

Thin meaning transparent, and/or when, as I said above, there is little to no mystery left about the person's body. It's difficult to give a precise answer, because of the variability of fabrics used in clothing, and the styles. The returning principle should be that modesty is about hiding the particular details of the human body in order to respect the consequences of original sin, while still appearing according to one's sex.

Shorts are more childish than anything else, but if there is an occasion of sin for women, it would more likely be the very short ones. The lower than mid-thigh but above knee-length ones that old men wear golfing, for example, can be immodest in certain sitting positions; because it is loose fitting, one can see far up the leg sometimes.

If there is truly a legitimate, morally permissible need to show more skin than would normally be prudent, I believe God would preserve those of good will walking by from falling into sin, and every person has a duty themselves to practice custody of the eyes anyways. The context in which the human body is more visible also matters. A wounded soldier bleeding out with his shirt off should not cause a female nurse to sin, for example.

As for unbuttoning a shirt, I am referring to when men leave them undone about 2-3 buttons with a bare chest showing. I have seen that look in men who are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, or certainly act like it, or who are known for their public sins of lust.

Hopefully this is helpful, please feel free to ask more questions as needed.
Thanks for the response you and others. Doesn't the weave also matter in clothes? I find that most clothes do not specify what type of weave they use. Also apparently tropical wool with the correct weave is better than linen due to it's better moisture absorption and holding it's form as linen crinkles easily.