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« on: November 26, 2013, 11:47:50 AM »
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  • I'm aware that the Church strongly discourages mixed marriages but after you ALREADY made the mistake of marrying a non Catholic, how do you bear that cross?

    Can someone give advice on how to deal with a spouse who is hostile to the Faith? I feel I cannot really love my spouse and there is no unity in my home.



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    « Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 11:52:20 AM »
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  • Pray, first of all.  Second, realize that despite the rancor in your home, the other person is your spouse, and you are united to each other for the rest of your lives.  Third, if you have children, raise them in the faith.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 11:54:53 AM »
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  • How did you love him when you first married him?

    Did the vows you took, before God, say that your love was conditional on him being or eventually becoming a Catholic ?

    You bear the cross by taking responsibility for YOUR actions. YOU married him, it was YOUR choice so now YOU have to deal with it.

    This is what common people deal for 1000s of years before divorce was commonplace.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 12:02:56 PM »
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  • Marriage to non-Catholic = recipe for loosing the faith.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 12:13:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: ggreg
    How did you love him when you first married him?

    Did the vows you took, before God, say that your love was conditional on him being or eventually becoming a Catholic ?

    You bear the cross by taking responsibility for YOUR actions. YOU married him, it was YOUR choice so now YOU have to deal with it.

    This is what common people deal for 1000s of years before divorce was commonplace.


    I did not marry out of love but I surely can take responsibilities of my actions and honor the promise I made to Our Lord. Thank you for the reminder.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 12:16:44 PM »
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    Marriage to non-Catholic = recipe for loosing the faith.


    This has not been the case so far. I married Novus Ordo when my faith was lukewarm. My faith has been constantly increasing.  Therefore my growing disdain towards my spouse's unbelief and pagan tendencies.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 12:29:04 PM »
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  • In that case, with all that increased faith you have, show your husband increased love, despite the fact he is a modern pagan.  After all, you were a lukewarm Catholic once.  Give him some time to change as well.  It took you some time it might take him another 10 years but if you treat him right he will probably come around.

    Most men want a happy marriage and if you are a fantastic wife then most will come around, if for no other reason than to have an easier life with a decent woman rather than a crappy life with an average woman.

    Frankly, I reckon if you took the average secular bloke on the street and gave him the option of going along to mass on Sundays and having a couple of extra kids in order to have a happy, contented, non-moaning, respectful wife and you could assure him the deal was straight then most would probably take it.

    What's your alternative?  Split up and spend the rest of your life single?  You might as well double-down now and go for broke.  There are no pleasant alternatives.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 12:30:03 PM »
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    How did you love him when you first married him?

    Did the vows you took, before God, say that your love was conditional on him being or eventually becoming a Catholic ?

    You bear the cross by taking responsibility for YOUR actions. YOU married him, it was YOUR choice so now YOU have to deal with it.

    This is what common people deal for 1000s of years before divorce was commonplace.


    I did not marry out of love but I surely can take responsibilities of my actions and honor the promise I made to Our Lord. Thank you for the reminder.


    The marital vows you made were before the Lord, but you made them to your spouse.  Remember that.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 04:11:59 PM »
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  • What can you do?  There are saints that have been in your shoes?  I hope that those who read this post help to give names of these saints.  My mind sticks on venerable Elizabetta.  I read of her but can not retrieve it.  She was married to a man and had 2 daughters.  The husband left her and committed every sin that one could do.  He even put a gun to her face and she was left in the streets.  She never spoke bad of her husband.  She prayed as a catholic would do and her daughters as well.  She died and her husband came looking for her and saw that she had passed on.  He became so sorrowful, that he confessed, became a clergy and his first Mass was for his wife.

    So, what to do.  First of all, a lot of prayer, and when you do, you are not alone.  You take your angel and all the church militant with you and so you are all in prayer together.  Offer special masses for the family.  Don't have a false peace in the home.  That is, don't back down on spiritual matters, hold your position.  Some of the children might want to back out of daily rosary or mass and you say to them, I or we made a promise to give you the true Faith and that is just what we or I will do.  Keep holy water in the house.  If you are not near a church for real holy water have some one here on the forum, mail it to you.  Have a priest bless your home, if you can.  Bring alot of Christ into your Christmas.  Sing as you make your cookies and trim the tree.  Be yourself.  Continue to educate yourself of Catholicism.  You will find many ways to bring it into the family.  Know the powers of prayer and Mass/sacraments, that is where the Precious Blood is.  You can make a cake when the angels have their feast, a birthday cake for Our Lady and etc.  Have Holy Calendars and pictures, candles and such when you pray.  

    If your husband is disinterested, continue prayer and have understanding, as one of the members have posted.  If he ever comes around, he will be anxious to catch up and read books.  

    Your in prayer!

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    « Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 04:57:39 PM »
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  • Thank you all for the excellent advice. At least my spouse does not oppose or interfere with the children being brought up in the Catholic faith. Thank you Lord!

    I'd love to read about saints in similar positions (I only know of St. Monica); and also any book with Church teaching on the topic.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 08:11:47 PM »
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  • Have you asked a priest to come to your home for the Enthronement of your family/home to the Sacred Heart of Jesus?  It might be a great first step at exposing your husband to the guidance of a priest, and you will receive many graces, whether or not he chooses to participate in the Faith for now.  Then make sure the VERY LARGE picture of the Sacred Heart of Jesus is within view of your whole family, every day.  Soon enough Jesus will communicate through His eyes and His heart to your husband.  

    Look for little wins, and keep praying.  It is good that he doesn't interfere with the education and prayer life of your children.  God bless you and your family!


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    « Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 04:53:41 AM »
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    The St Joseph Prayer to Obtain a Conversion

    O glorious patriarch St. Joseph, who merited to be called "just' by the Holy Ghost, I urgently recommend to the soul of (Name), which Jesus redeemed at the price of His Precious Blood.

    Thou knowest how deplorable is the state and how unhappy the life of those who have banished this loving Savior from their hearts, and how greatly they are exposed to the danger of losing Him eternally. Permit not, I beseech thee, that a soul so dear to me should continue any longer in its evil ways; preserve it from the danger that threatens it; touch the heart of the prodigal child and conduct him back to the bosom of the fondest of fathers. Abandon him not, I implore thee, till thou hast opened to him the gates of the Heavenly city, where he will praise and bless thee throughout eternity for the happiness which he will owe to thy powerful intercession. Amen.


    http://www.st-joseph-medal.com/prayers-to-st-joseph.htm
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 05:53:06 AM »
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    Marriage to non-Catholic = recipe for loosing the faith.


    This has not been the case so far. I married Novus Ordo when my faith was lukewarm. My faith has been constantly increasing.  Therefore my growing disdain towards my spouse's unbelief and pagan tendencies.

    So, what religion is your spouse?

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    « Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 05:54:34 AM »
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    In that case, with all that increased faith you have, show your husband increased love, despite the fact he is a modern pagan.  After all, you were a lukewarm Catholic once.  Give him some time to change as well.  It took you some time it might take him another 10 years but if you treat him right he will probably come around.

    Most men want a happy marriage and if you are a fantastic wife then most will come around, if for no other reason than to have an easier life with a decent woman rather than a crappy life with an average woman.

    Frankly, I reckon if you took the average secular bloke on the street and gave him the option of going along to mass on Sundays and having a couple of extra kids in order to have a happy, contented, non-moaning, respectful wife and you could assure him the deal was straight then most would probably take it.

    What's your alternative?  Split up and spend the rest of your life single?  You might as well double-down now and go for broke.  There are no pleasant alternatives.

    The pleasant alternative would be for him to convert.
     :popcorn:

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    « Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 05:56:09 AM »
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    Thank you all for the excellent advice. At least my spouse does not oppose or interfere with the children being brought up in the Catholic faith. Thank you Lord!


    This is a good sign.