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« on: June 20, 2018, 08:40:50 PM »
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    « Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 08:58:50 PM »
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  • Hilarious. Great vid!


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    « Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 11:33:18 PM »
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  • haha ... I'm not sure about his premise, but that was an entertaining video. How boring the world must have been before YouTube.  :popcorn:

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 10:44:02 AM »
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  • Nowadays, with the intellectual rot set so deep in our society, clear thinking is often confused with wisdom.
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    Never seen this guy, but watched a few of his other videos after this one.  He is a clear thinker, and he certainly gets credit for that.  Philosophically though, he's something of a social Darwinist and has a strong Nietszchian bent.  He did a video on autism, for instance, where he talks about how autists are more in line with what people are "supposed" to be, given that they're less civilized and more sensitive.  What I took from the video was an idealization of the will to power and the uber-mensch. 
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    There are a lot of other talking heads that this criticism applies to generally.  People with clear thoughts who are confused as geniuses or just as people with some good wisdom to share simply because they stand in stark contrast with the usual minutiae of inanity.  And I'll certainly cede that the clear thinkers (of whatever stripe) are preferable to the norm, they're still a far distance from being right in a lot of what they have to say.
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    Note that this isn't really related to the video in the OP at all, but more broadly to this fella's content and tying it in to a lot of the other conservative content on YouTube.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2018, 11:34:22 AM »
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  • Kind of like Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, or a bunch of others.

    "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

    It's such a breath of fresh air to hear ANYONE speak common sense or speak out against the absolute insanity in our world today -- we're ready to spread their videos, subscribe to their channel, give them a kiss, etc -- even though, objectively speaking, they are far from being fully in possession of the truth (like Bishop Williamson, for example).

    But we're so used to Bishop Williamson being alone, that even when someone else speaks even 1% of 5% of the things Bishop Williamson does, we get all excited.

    So I know what you mean.
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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2018, 11:44:05 AM »
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  • I quite like Jordan Peterson, not because I think he's necessarily more correct than anyone else, but because he has a distinguishable humility and because he is a true professional in his field.  Psychology is a real science and he's an emblem of what it can tell you when you don't insist on applying it only within culturo-Marxist frameworks.
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    But still the point holds (about the "breath of fresh air" being no substitute for more comprehensive truth).  Religiously, he's an archetypal modernist.  Though in his case, I think that he's genuinely open to legitimate religion at least.  In an interview with Patrick Coffin when he was pressed about religion and Christianity he basically said "I need to learn more about it, I'm open to the idea of there being a 'real' religion."  Which is pretty profound for someone whose trained in a discipline that has been historically mired in Jamesian pragmatism about the value of religion.

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #6 on: June 21, 2018, 11:44:21 AM »
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  • I quite like Jordan Peterson, not because I think he's necessarily more correct than anyone else, but because he has a distinguishable humility and because he is a true professional in his field.  Psychology is a real science and he's an emblem of what it can tell you when you don't insist on applying it only within culturo-Marxist frameworks.
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    But still the point holds (about the "breath of fresh air" being no substitute for more comprehensive truth).  Religiously, he's an archetypal modernist.  Though in his case, I think that he's genuinely open to legitimate religion at least.  In an interview with Patrick Coffin when he was pressed about religion and Christianity he basically said "I need to learn more about it, I'm open to the idea of there being a 'real' religion."  Which is pretty profound for someone whose trained in a discipline that has been historically mired in Jamesian pragmatism about the value of religion.
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    This was me.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 12:25:35 PM »
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  • I would also add, that there's a place for a Jordan Peterson. What I mean is this: If Bishop Williamson gets up there and gives us the whole truth, most people (college kids, etc.) will tune out for various reasons: He's a Catholic, he's a Traditional Catholic, a "h0Ɩ0cαųst denier", and so forth.

    But a Jordan Peterson can get people moving in the right direction, get them thinking the right way, and he's closer to where they are. He's more accessible, as it were.

    Just like Fr. Goettler (SSPX priest) once said in a sermon: the Indult is GREAT "on the way up" to the fullness of Tradition. But it's relatively speaking a sellout, compromised, inferior, bad position if you're "on the way down" from a more complete package of Tradition (Today that would mean some SSPX, Resistance, sedevacantist, independent Tridentine Mass chapel, etc.)

    That's why it's a tragedy what's happening to the SSPX -- they had the full package, and are STEPPING DOWN to becoming FSSP.

    Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the SSPX had 100,000 faithful. Now if 100,000 Novus Ordo Catholics become FSSP, that would be a GREAT THING. But a horrible tragedy if those 100,000 people were +ABL position, Recognize and Resist, full Trad.

    The FSSP/Indult is objectively inferior, because of the position itself. I'm not critiquing the individual FSSP priests here. Some of them might be "good". But it's a fact that Traditional Catholics have always known, for example, that we don't need permission from any Pope or Church government to be Catholic: to attend sure Masses and receive sure sacraments. FSSP bombs out on this point completely. Hence they are inferior.

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 02:28:50 PM »
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  • Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #9 on: July 05, 2018, 07:41:52 PM »
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  • Not all "monks" are beta males…

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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #10 on: July 06, 2018, 07:33:53 PM »
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  • Jordan Peterson is a joke.

    The comments below his article are pretty good. At least he didn't delete them.

    I found the article by typing "Jordan Peterson" and "αnтι-ѕємιтє" into Jєωgle. This is always a good quick way to find out the most important question one should have about a public figure, i.e. what does he think of the Jєωs.

    Peterson is a tool of the Jєωs, if not one.
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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #11 on: July 06, 2018, 08:09:46 PM »
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    The OP video guy has his head up his a**. 
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    Padre Pio had no physical children but he has millions of spiritual children, most of whom never actually met him.
                                    ...And some of whom were born after he had died...
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    But your Welsh atheist posterboy in camo drag wouldn't understand that if it hit him in the face.
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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2018, 04:39:41 PM »
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  • MGTOW is misogynist.
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    Re: MGTOW
    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 08:08:21 PM »
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  • Jordan Peterson is a leftist, a globalist, and an intellectual fraud.

    He's also crazy.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle