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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2013, 06:18:25 AM »
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    « Reply #16 on: June 02, 2013, 11:02:57 AM »
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    The 'mental health' professions were my original career path (well, clinical research, but anyway) and I worked with the patients as a research assistant and various capacities.

    They do not help anyone. It is damage control. The 'manage' the cases, they do not 'fix'. This is the primary reason I left it.


    I had a similar experience.  At first I thought, they can explain the problems people have, but they can't really solve anything.  Later I came to think, that the field is really just about rationalizing vice.  Example:  you feel guilty, you go to a psychologist and he makes it go away, by telling you that your guilt is just a relic of an outdated culture, rooted in Catholicism.  Once you firmly believe that, then you are "cured!"  

    There's these "catholic" and "christian" psychologists running around and many of them may be well meaning, but my question is, why bother?  If Catholicism is charged by God, with bringing the truth to the people, then should I reject that truth, because a few priests are bad?  I don't think so.  If psychology is charged by our ruling regime, with rationalizing fear, shame and guilt, so the people's consciences become seared, then should I accept that stuff, because a few psychologist seem like good guys?  I don't think so!  

    Then there's the argument of desperation, claiming that nobody else is doing this.  Well, that's just not true.  The basic solutions to our problems can be found in, for example, the book, "My Catholic Faith."  (a traditional explanation of the catechism, written and illustrated, at a school kid level, sold at angelus press for around fifty dollars, which is probably less money than one hour of "counseling").  


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    « Reply #17 on: June 02, 2013, 02:21:56 PM »
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  • Psychology needs to be a means to an end. Not an end in itself. When it is used to uncover negative unconscious beliefs and defense mechanisms which may be hindering one's Faith so that one can leave them behind and learn to trust in God purely, than psychology is good.

    It has to be enlightened by the Catholic Faith.  


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    « Reply #18 on: June 02, 2013, 02:36:31 PM »
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  • There are some people who are really crazy, like schizophrenics who see people who are not there and hear voices in their heads. For some of these patients who aren't possessed by devils, the medicines can help them. But I wouldn't take that kind of medicine unless I was really crazy and not just depressed.

    But for some reason, they don't know how to cure craziness, they can only give pills that help temporarily and if you stop taking the pills you go crazy again.

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    « Reply #19 on: June 02, 2013, 02:58:35 PM »
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  • I think some of the turn towards psychology is definitely due to a lack of wise counsel. Bishop Williamson talks how people have lost common sense and sanity being disconnected from the natural world. Older mothers with a few sentences here and there have done me a world of good. They know right, wrong, justice, injustice, and can see reality.
     



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    « Reply #20 on: June 02, 2013, 08:52:26 PM »
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  • The "classical/traditional" explanation of "crazy" is somebody who's reason has been overwhelmed by their passions.  So, how this is not a spiritual problem, but rather a medical problem is beyond me;  I think they're fooling themselves and their patients.  

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    « Reply #21 on: June 02, 2013, 09:38:29 PM »
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  • Trauma causes mental problems.  For example, soldiers going into Shell Shock.
    Being scared out of one's wits could leave someone in a state of incapacity, I think..jar something loose in the brain, cause a brain injury.

    Repeated abuse and neglect of infants wrecks up their brain pretty badly, according to MRI readings.

    People subjected to sleep deprivation can lose their minds.   Then there are viruses and fevers which can cause brain injuries or insults.  There are all sorts of glitches in people's brain that can happen, or people are born with.

    Secular or government mental institutions are notorious hell-holes.  There used to be orders of sisters and brothers who cared for those having a really hard time coping.

     I believe the greatest part of modern "mental illness" is a spiritual affliction, though.

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    « Reply #22 on: June 02, 2013, 10:51:25 PM »
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  • PTSD can be summed up in:  you feel lousy, because something bad happened to you and you don't know how to deal with it.  Take a kid who was abducted by a child molester at age 7 and didn't "escape" until he was age 17.  After being basically raised by child molesters, your morals are probably trashed.  So, you'll have to work on getting rid of all the vices they taught you and replace all that junk with virtue.  You'll also have to forgive them, because if you don't, the resentments will eat you alive.  

    How can anyone possibly forgive something like that, without a sound Catholic understanding of forgiveness and why it is necessary and right.  How can they repent of the vices they've learned and replace them with virtues, without Catholicism.  I don't see how.  Either they do a poor copy of it or they fail.  

    Why that would be a "medical problem," is beyond me.  That seems to me to be clearly a spiritual problem and if any expert help is needed, then it should be coming from a priest.  It seems to me, it is about learning the catechism and applying it to your past, present and future.  

    Of course, this could be considered "mental fatigue."  In which case you would need rest as well.  But that rest should be used to work diligently on your spiritual problems, not fall into the vice of slothfulness.  That could only make things worse.  

    I think some of the retreat houses might actually have this in mind.