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Men who wont work
« on: February 13, 2013, 08:03:49 PM »
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  • Why do some "trad" men refuse to work (or are working odd jobs) but see nothing wrong with this?  Like they need time to research and write that magna opus and expect the wife to carry the load?  And they really believe they are not committing mortal sin and they don't think anyone should complain.  The wife has to support the family but he still wants to be in charge.  

    Like that guy Mr. Skimpole from Bleak House...."I'm just a child you see, I'm innocent.....I'm not capable."

    Forget it!


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    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 08:22:17 PM »
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  • Are you the wife?


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    « Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 08:12:37 AM »
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    Why do some "trad" men refuse to work (or are working odd jobs) but see nothing wrong with this?  Like they need time to research and write that magna opus and expect the wife to carry the load?  And they really believe they are not committing mortal sin and they don't think anyone should complain.  The wife has to support the family but he still wants to be in charge.  

    Like that guy Mr. Skimpole from Bleak House...."I'm just a child you see, I'm innocent.....I'm not capable."

    Forget it!


    You said it. There are even single trad men who berate people for doing a "menial" job, and they don't even have a job themselves. They consider menial work beneath them, and don't bat an eyelash over taking advantage of charity when they're "down on their luck," and they put themselves in the situation they're in, in the first place.

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    « Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 09:07:59 AM »
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  • I have to reply to this one.  I can only assume that you must have encountered the same individual I did awhile ago.  "I feel your pain!"  I would like to pose the question, "Why would highly intelligent so called "traditionalist" men who don't have jobs,  impose upon traditional catholic families for hand-outs?  THAT I would like to know!

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    « Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 12:10:58 PM »
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    I have to reply to this one.  I can only assume that you must have encountered the same individual I did awhile ago.  "I feel your pain!"  


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    « Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 03:25:56 PM »
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    Why do some "trad" men refuse to work (or are working odd jobs) but see nothing wrong with this?  Like they need time to research and write that magna opus and expect the wife to carry the load?  And they really believe they are not committing mortal sin and they don't think anyone should complain.  The wife has to support the family but he still wants to be in charge.  

    Like that guy Mr. Skimpole from Bleak House...."I'm just a child you see, I'm innocent.....I'm not capable."

    Forget it!


    I understand your frustration with what sounds like your husband's neglect of his duty to provide and perhaps his spending too much time on his other roles.  However, it sounds like you are wanting to rebel against his authority, because he's not doing everything you think he should be doing.  Even if you  are right about his character flaw, how do you think your making comments that seem to imply a desire to undermine his authority will help you get a husband who is ready, willing and able to perform all of his God given roles, in your family?  

    In other words, threatening your husband with rebelliion, probably isn't going to make your life any better, than it is right now.  

     




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    « Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 10:16:41 PM »
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  • You are still assuming that this is a "wife".  She could be a perspective woman who doesn't want to be the bread winner of the family.  Maybe she actually wants to be a mom who stays home with her children.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 11:18:47 PM »
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    You are still assuming that this is a "wife".


    Why should an unmarried woman complain about a situation she is not compelled to enter?

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    She could be a perspective woman who doesn't want to be the bread winner of the family.


    In that case she should hope that more opportunities are provided to young Catholic men to support families.  A good thing to do would be to complain to the rich people and ask why they're so damned stingy and resentful of fellow Catholics.

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     Maybe she actually wants to be a mom who stays home with her children.


    In that case, (according to someone here) her husband must make over $100,000 a year and be able to afford a half million dollar house.

    Sounds like a formula for old maids and single mothers to me.  And in fact I think that suits certain people just fine.  They would rather women be single mothers or old maids than be married with children to men who (in their minds) aren't good enough.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 07:48:08 AM »
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    write that magna opus


    Write that magnum opus? Self delusion. Fantasies. And it won't be any good.

    The vice of effeminacy is very strong in these times. Everywhere. Period.

    Heard a priest give a sermon talking about it once.

    A lot of men aren't men they're just big boys who don't want to work.

    A woman doesn't marry someone like that if she knows what she's doing. Most don't. And if it's after the fact, she has to make him take responsibility.

    But there's a right way and a wrong way to do that. Do it the wrong way: Proverbs 25:24.

    And that's the end of the marriage.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 17, 2013, 03:45:49 PM »
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      Maybe she actually wants to be a mom who stays home with her children.


    In that case, (according to someone here) her husband must make over $100,000 a year and be able to afford a half million dollar house.

    Sounds like a formula for old maids and single mothers to me.  And in fact I think that suits certain people just fine.  They would rather women be single mothers or old maids than be married with children to men who (in their minds) aren't good enough.


    Oh, really....sounds very worldly and superficial imho.  But then again, that is the way of the world today.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 09:46:20 AM »
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  • [2 Thessalonians 3:10]  

    For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.

    [11] For we have heard there are some among you who walk disorderly, working not at all, but curiously meddling. [12] Now we charge them that are such, and beseech them by the Lord Jesus Christ, that, working with silence, they would eat their own bread. [13] But you, brethren, be not weary in well doing. [14] And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed: [15] Yet do not esteem him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 10:35:12 AM »
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    [2 Thessalonians 3:10]  

    For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.


    Do you think St. Paul meant by that the unemployed should starve?


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    « Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 10:52:14 AM »
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  • I do wonder, who are these people complaining of their bread being eaten by unemployed Trad men?
     

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    « Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 04:22:47 PM »
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  • It sounds like it's about meddling/busybodies/idle hands = devil's workshop kind of thing.  So, get busy doing something;  don't just stick your nose in everybody else's business, but not mind your own.  


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    « Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 05:50:14 PM »
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    It sounds like it's about meddling/busybodies/idle hands = devil's workshop kind of thing.  So, get busy doing something;  don't just stick your nose in everybody else's business, but not mind your own.  


    It says let them eat their own bread.  So, are they eating your bread?  The bread of the SSPX?  

    I don't think I've heard anyone in the SSPX ever speak of giving alms to the poor.  

    How would Lazarus fare outside the Regina Coeli house?