Author Topic: Men who wont work (Read 11905 times)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #60 on:** February 24, 2013, 05:39:48 AM »

Yes, a job that would require working 12 hours a day would seriously impinge on the education of children. In the past when fathers taught children trades or worked in the farm things were quite different of course, since the father and children worked together.

I am 9 years older than my brother and loved to read to him and teach him while he was a boy. Some of the happiest times in my life.

I always have looked forward to repeating the same thing with my own children.

I encouraged him, bought him books to read, taught him algebra and Euclid's geometry while still in elementary school.

He will be an MD soon. Sometimes I think, most parents don't want the best for their children, if the best is better than them. That is why the school system is so miserable. At some level, parents must want it to be that way.

ggreg · « **Reply #61 on:** February 24, 2013, 05:41:55 AM »

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I would be interested in how a wife could constructively deal with this situation, in a catholic way. I'd also be interested in why a catholic husband might decide that the roles of priest and protector was something they could do/wanted to do, but the role of provider wasn't.

Just curious here...why would a man NOT want to provide and take care of his own wife? That doesn't make sense to me. Does he want someone else to do it for him? Is there some legitimate reason why he shouldn't have to or is it his own emotional immaturity? I'd like to hear legitimate reasons why a man should not financially provide for his own wife because I'm not aware of any but they must exist if you say so. From a Catholic perspective of course.

I guess the simple reason is he does not want to feel sweat on his brow. He is selfish and lazy. Provided his needs are taken care of and his wife's basic needs are taken care of, he can justify to himself that he has done enough and that those who expect more are, "materialistic" or "bourgeois".

Work is generally speaking hard physically or mentally or both. It is not often "fun", that is why it is called "work"

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #62 on:** February 24, 2013, 05:55:12 AM »

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Does living in a trailer park and claiming welfare and your children wearing clothes from charity stores count as providing? Never taking a holiday, never having a day out in the big city? Some might consider that not providing others would disagree.

You are making a common error of either they don't work and are on public assistance or they live a comfortable life. It's more likely he works a low paying full time job or close to full time job with no benefits (or only gets them for himself) his pregnant wife and kids get medicaid for health insurance and they receive food stamps. Or he is on unemployment and the wife works part-time doing something. They get a new beater to drive and tv or computer every spring when their tax refund comes in.
~Tiffany

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #63 on:** February 24, 2013, 05:59:26 AM »

Poverty is part of life, poor people who raise families with dignity and faith are to be admired, even if they are occasional recipients of charity or aid. Poverty is increased, not decreased, by people who "earn" their livings by engaging in middle man activities, that while they may cause perspiration by the occasional twinge of conscience (for those who aren't sociopaths), cannot be considered the labor that one does by the sweat of his brow.

ggreg · « **Reply #64 on:** February 24, 2013, 06:09:26 AM »

The slight more complex reason is that working in the big wide world involves stresses and difficulties that are particular to your faith.

I was consulting for a large FX trading firm last summer and working in their office for three days per week for four weeks. There was a 40 year old married woman and a sodomite male work colleague who were clearly the closest of friends as well as work colleagues on the desk island closest to where I had been provided a workstation. Their 9 to 5 banter consisted of graphic descriptions of what they got up to last weekend, or what they would each like to do to the same male celebrity or bitching about the fashion sense of the latest female celebrity.

Now I am pretty thick skinned and I have spent a career working in offices, but this really went beyond the call of duty. You just have to cope with it and offer it up.

If you now add to that naturally occurring problem the rigourist layer of additional rules that some Rad Trads then introduce about trousers are evil, talking to married women in an office inappropriate, socialising with colleagues after work an occasion of sin, usury is evil, using LinkedIn and Facebook is evil and a sign of a compromise with liberalism etc, etc, etc, etc, then just about every job opportunity and EVERY career path is shut down to them.

Thus the desire to be organic farmers, hermits, teachers at Trad schools, pundits or somehow be supported by the cult they hang around with.

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