Author Topic: Men who wont work (Read 11826 times)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #45 on:** February 22, 2013, 09:52:52 PM »

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Like to hear one of the "thumbs downers" explain what justifications there might be for a man to refuse to support his family.

No one claimed there is a justification for him supposedly "refusing."

Seems like we're dealing with some morons here.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #46 on:** February 22, 2013, 10:03:51 PM »

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That makes sense. It just seems so confused today though, with women working and so few jobs paying enough to support a family/being a stable and secure source of income for decades to come. It must be very hard for women to submit to not working and relying on their husbands and for men to trust their wives to/truly want them to.

This is very difficult especially if the woman has earned an education, already worked, and maybe her job was part of her self-image. It takes a lot of trust for a a woman to give that up and submit to her husband and trust him to work and provide for her without her input. It can be terrifying. When she works she enjoys some control over her life. But when she relies solely on husband.....she gives up that control. Now if the man is properly ordered and is truly devoted to his responsibilities it works well. But when the man is disordered, immature, or selfish...he fails in his duties and it triggers her fears. Even if a man is out of work due to no fault of his own or has low wages, he can still be reassuring to his wife. But if he shows resentment over his lot in life.....well, that isn't going to inspire trust in the wife. She's going to nag or worse. So he's created a fearful environment but doesn't want her to express her fears.

It's not the man's low wages that leads to marriage demise. It's his failure to reassure her (his protector role) that he will take care of things one way or another.

Well as a female that's my take on it.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #47 on:** February 22, 2013, 10:16:44 PM »

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That makes sense. It just seems so confused today though, with women working and so few jobs paying enough to support a family/being a stable and secure source of income for decades to come. It must be very hard for women to submit to not working and relying on their husbands and for men to trust their wives to/truly want them to.

This is very difficult especially if the woman has earned an education, already worked, and maybe her job was part of her self-image. It takes a lot of trust for a a woman to give that up and submit to her husband and trust him to work and provide for her without her input. It can be terrifying. When she works she enjoys some control over her life. But when she relies solely on husband.....she gives up that control. Now if the man is properly ordered and is truly devoted to his responsibilities it works well. But when the man is disordered, immature, or selfish...he fails in his duties and it triggers her fears. Even if a man is out of work due to no fault of his own or has low wages, he can still be reassuring to his wife. But if he shows resentment over his lot in life.....well, that isn't going to inspire trust in the wife. She's going to nag or worse. So he's created a fearful environment but doesn't want her to express her fears.

It's not the man's low wages that leads to marriage demise. It's his failure to reassure her (his protector role) that he will take care of things one way or another.

Well as a female that's my take on it.

I can see some truth in that. Do you think women have any responsibility?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #48 on:** February 22, 2013, 10:39:58 PM »

I heard a story that I found very interesting, and it shows the way of thinking that seems prevalent in the SSPX and how its members reject people they deem unworthy.

There is a young unmarried woman with child. The father is trad and was going with her for a year, speaking of marriage often, but never proposing, before finally the likely consequence of overly long courtship occurred.

Here is what was shocking. The father refused to marry the girl, and insinuated to the priests the girl was too sickly, wasn't cut out for it, etc. The so-called "Catholic" PRIESTS basically gave him carte blanche to refuse to marry the girl. He told her to put the child up for adoption. It's sickening.

Does the SSPX prefer to have "troublesome" people out of the way, even if it means splitting up families, children being raised without their fathers?

I have to conclude the answer is yes. Not all the priests are like that, but the new generation of priests seems to practice and encourage destructive meddling.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #49 on:** February 22, 2013, 10:50:29 PM »

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I can see some truth in that. Do you think women have any responsibility?

Well our faith teaches us that a woman's primary responsibility is to their children and their home. So if a woman is keeping house, raising children, homeschooling...when does she have time to work a job? We are talking about traditional Catholics....not worldly people.

It seems to me inherent in the above question is that these "jobs" the women do aren't viewed as work. Would you agree with that?

There are only 24 hours in a day. How many hours should a wife work?

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