Author Topic: Men Wearing Goatees (Read 2337 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** June 16, 2013, 11:52:03 PM »

Isn't a man shaving his beard into some design such as a goatee a sign of vanity?

How about wearing anti-persipirant, which contains known toxic chemicals....isn't that vanity, a sin?

How about driving an expensive pick up truck, or buying a loud stereo? Sinful?

Wearing shorts in summer and showing his legs? Inciting lust?

Cologne? Unvirtuous?

Wearing flashy bright colored HUGE ties to church? Impious?

How about those goofy Gatsby hats? That certainly draws alot of attention.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2013, 12:18:07 AM »

Goatees are used in art and film to depict evil. Shaving is also immoral because it removes hair that is naturally growing. Beards are a mortal sin because they may cause women to swoon over one's manliness.

Don't forget about men who dress above their station, they are trying to lure a potential wife under false pretenses!

How I wish all my fellow immodest men would go back to wearing robes instead of pants, which are also sinful. I know that will happen about as soon as every man who has ever cross-dressed by wearing a kilt goes to confession.

:soapbox:

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2013, 12:28:35 AM »

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The woman(?) who posted this had her stubborn pride wounded when she saw the holy saints of the church condemning her vain cosmetic habits. Now she is just trying to deflect from her own faults by trying to condemn the habits of men.

So cologne is sinful?

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2013, 12:33:11 AM »

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The woman(?) who posted this had her stubborn pride wounded when she saw the holy saints of the church condemning her vain cosmetic habits. Now she is just trying to deflect from her own faults by trying to condemn the habits of men.

And she really had to dig.

Men are so different from women on this heading, it isn't funny.

Look around you at any chapel on Sunday. Look at how SIMILAR the mens' clothing is. Try to look at clothing objectively. Look at coverage, colors, etc.

Could you imagine men showing up in 20 different styles of pants? Shirts?

Do men worry about "wearing the same shirt" or "wearing the same pants" as another guy at church, or at a wedding? But a woman's nightmare is to "wear the same dress" as another wedding attendee.

Bringing up anti-perspirant? That's rich, especially since women wear this too! So you should compare antiperspirant with antiperspirant, not antiperspirant with makeup.

That's about all the time I'm going to waste on this post.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2013, 12:42:18 AM »

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The woman(?) who posted this had her stubborn pride wounded when she saw the holy saints of the church condemning her vain cosmetic habits. Now she is just trying to deflect from her own faults by trying to condemn the habits of men.

So cologne is sinful?

I wouldn't care if it were.

I don't use it -- it seems unnecessary to me. Using soap is plenty to make you smell "perfumed" -- anything more is disturbing, in my opinion.

How about just smelling -- normal? No one wants to smell like sweat or B.O., so take a shower. But above that, it really is just vanity.

Baking soda works just fine as deodorant. It doesn't introduce aluminum into your body, nor does it forbid your body from excreting harmful toxins through the underarms -- something your body WANTS to do. I suggest you let it.

If you don't want cancer, especially breast cancer (yes, that goes for the men too), give up antiperspirant.

I do a lot of real work outside, and I never smell if I powder my armpits with baking soda. Why do you think they put baking soda in everything to control odor? It really does excel at this.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2013, 01:49:07 AM »

So a resistance priest who says it's OK for me to make myself attractive to MY HUSBAND is wrong because you say so? I better go set him straight!

Zeitun (still wearing my lipstick)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2013, 02:14:58 AM »

If a person is not open to even considering the matter, humbly, how does one ever find out if one is needing to convert about anything?

Isn't that a dangerous way to live?

A holy person is always open to considering how to change, and always looking for new ways to do so. Because life is constantly finding out new problems to solve, new sins to overcome, and virtues to acquire.

And life is constantly finding you have done things your entire life wrong in some way, your entire life, everyone who pursues holiness finds this time and again, your entire life something wrong that you have to change, and being grateful God was kind enough to show you rather than leaving you as you were. Being happy because of this beautiful gift.

Most Christian folks, this is something to learn for the convert, never defend themselves if they can help it, but always embrace criticism and look to see what good they can gain from it. If you see other example that's not real Christian example. It's to be avoided if it can be.

Perhaps your priest if you took him a print out of the entire thread with the quotes of the saints, might talk to you about many things and say things you might not expect but which would do you a lot of good. Especially if you show yourself open to wherever God might lead you, rather than closing down one possible path for one reason or another.

A lot of folks are always learning new things. Laity and priests. And a lot of things get lost in the shuffle and aren't clear. A lot of things are a privilege to learn.

That's another important point. You sound quite certain of yourself despite the saints. Even if so many saints were wrong on a spiritual and moral matter, (which would simply not happen, look and see, and believe it), that you were so closed to it would be something wrong with your approach. A thing to correct and change to a virtuous approach, one without agitation.

Beware of the devil's striving for conflict and agitation and frustration.

Making progress in this case for you might not be, 'I embrace the saints', at this point, that might not be possible, but simply, 'I don't know what the answer is, I need to take the time to think about this when I can think about it without anxiety and being open to both positions without bad emotions getting in the way.'

We're all sinners here. But the saints.. they can help us. They aren't picking sides. They just want us to be good.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2013, 02:20:22 AM »

Honestly seeing how upset you are and the opposition to the idea it'd be a real beautiful act of humility to do any of the above, considering how most folks would never go that route but just keep on as before.

Anyway, I apologize for anything in the way I said things that upset you. The content that's true, I can't apologize for, the way it's delivered I definitely can.

Nadir · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2013, 03:09:23 AM »

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So a resistance priest who says it's OK for me to make myself attractive to MY HUSBAND is wrong because you say so? I better go set him straight!

Zeitun (still wearing my lipstick)

Under odedience? :roll-laugh1:

Nadir · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2013, 03:18:00 AM »

I hadn't read the post recommending Zeitun to reconsider, before making my silly and frivolous post. Very good post, and well though out and expressed.

Since you signed, Zeitun, you can also click the DO NOT post anonumously box.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:07:02 AM »

I answer to my husband not Tertulian who I am certain would never want me to disobey my husband even in matters of lipstick and perfume. I have to please my man and rebellion against him won't please Our Lord either.

Yes, I am certain. I will not change. Not until I am a widow.

Zeitun

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2013, 10:47:23 AM »

A few people in my family have sensitivities to chemicals. When somebody wearing a strong perfume/aftershave is in close proximity they feel as if their face & airways are on fire. They cannot breathe normally & the effect usually stays for the rest of the day. They also tend to itch uncontrollably & in prolonged exposure they end up with rashes. It is far from comfortable for these people. We prefer to avoid perfumes/deodorants/aftershave/make-up. We make use of bicarb, vinegar & plain unscented soap for most household chores and bathing.

I have shaken hands with a man who wore strong aftershave. He still had aftershave on his hands hours after he applied it to his face. My sandwich picked up the taste & the car door handle, steering wheel & front door knob at home. The smell affected people in the vehicle with me. It was worse than being sprayed by a skunk - at least that stuff isn't toxic.

In regards to make-up: do a bit of research about what is in those things. Make-up has been designed to subtly attract men. The combination of colors & placement send the signal to males that the woman is ovulating & in heat - this will arouse men. Additionally, one would think that Catholic men would want a more Mary-like wife - plain, simple & natural. I hope my daughters never attract the kind of man who would demand they change their natural appearance or smell to whet his carnal appetite. Instead, I hope my daughters find men more like St. Joseph.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:33:25 PM »

Any man who worries about wearing the same shirt or pants as some other man isn't a man!
Post is by a woman! :rahrah:

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:50:43 PM »

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Any man who worries about wearing the same shirt or pants as some other man isn't a man!
Post is by a woman! :rahrah:

Wearing the same shirt and pants as another can be crowded.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:00:27 PM »

And VERY unmanly! :roll-laugh1:

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