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Offline Miseremini

Re: Mass stipend $ increase
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2023, 09:00:42 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 26, 2023, 04:01:25 PM
Funerals$300 to the chapel including the Mass stipend of $300 for the priest
Plus the organist/choir, janitor maybe and $20 to each server.
This is the one that gives me cause for concern.

Scenario:

The deceased was a long time supporter but the family are NO or nothing. (probable today)
They can have something/eulogy at the funeral home for no extra charge.
They aren't going to talk prices with the priest, they're just going to go with the freebe.
Couldn't the SSPX offer this final Mass as a thank you for the years of support and sacrifice they received from the deceased?
And forget about putting it in your will, it probably won't be read yet.

When preplanning our funerals we were told the surviving family can change things after you're dead.

Glad to see Extreme Unction didn't make the list.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Mass stipend $ increase
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2023, 09:49:37 PM »
Quote from: Miseremini on February 26, 2023, 09:00:42 PM
The deceased was a long time supporter but the family are NO or nothing. (probable today)
They can have something/eulogy at the funeral home for no extra charge.
They aren't going to talk prices with the priest, they're just going to go with the freebe.
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Um, it should be obvious that anyone whose family is NO or nothing can't legally designate their family as their next of kin, or their executor, or whatever the legal term is. They have to give the legal right to determine the disposition of their corpse to someone who will provide them with a true Catholic burial service. If they family gets mad when they find out about this after they die, oh well, Christ said we would have to choose between Him and family. Anyone who allows their NO family to do something pagan with their body doesn't deserve a Catholic burial.
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Mass stipend $ increase
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2023, 11:41:15 PM »
I have already left instructions with the funeral home where I have my pre-need set up, just as soon as they receive my mortal remains, to contact my estate trustee immediately.  My trustee has very specific instructions WRT my funeral Mass (TLM of course) as well as Gregorian Masses (arranged with a priest who offers the TLM), Month's Mind, and one-year anniversary.  I took care of that several months ago.  Not expecting anything, but death can and does come suddenly.

You have to make such arrangements.  If not, well-meaning family members will simply call the NO parish church and whisk you off to a "Mass of Christian Burial", complete with a white pall, "On Eagles' Wings", instant de facto canonization, and maybe even balloons and teddy bears.  I think you have to pay extra to have white doves released.  Isn't that special?
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Mass stipend $ increase
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2023, 01:53:20 AM »
Quote from: SimpleMan on February 26, 2023, 11:41:15 PM
I have already left instructions with the funeral home where I have my pre-need set up, just as soon as they receive my mortal remains, to contact my estate trustee immediately.  My trustee has very specific instructions WRT my funeral Mass (TLM of course) as well as Gregorian Masses (arranged with a priest who offers the TLM), Month's Mind, and one-year anniversary.  I took care of that several months ago.  Not expecting anything, but death can and does come suddenly.

You have to make such arrangements.  If not, well-meaning family members will simply call the NO parish church and whisk you off to a "Mass of Christian Burial", complete with a white pall, "On Eagles' Wings", instant de facto canonization, and maybe even balloons and teddy bears.  I think you have to pay extra to have white doves released.  Isn't that special?

I phrased this poorly.  What I was trying to get at, was if your family isn't on board with traditional Catholicism, it could well be that they wouldn't understand that our requirements for a TLM funeral are very specific and would likely not be honored by a NO pastor.  Many families are grief-stricken at times such as this, especially if the death occurs suddenly, and might well just be floundering for what to do in the space of a few days, or would only be able to tell the funeral director "well, he was Catholic", and the funeral director wouldn't know either, and would arrange to do the NO thing because that's what they're used to when Catholics die.  My own poor mother wouldn't have a clue, and my son is 15 and wouldn't be able to articulate just what it is that I want.  I have left detailed instructions out of necessity.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Mass stipend $ increase
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2023, 04:25:52 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 26, 2023, 06:10:46 PM
That's interesting. I had never heard of all these "voluntary donations" for so many of the sacraments. Is that traditional? Like you say, when you are a parishioner giving regularly in the collections, or even if you are not... it just starts to sound a little too much like a "career". That being said, they are only suggestions, and I certainly don't know any Traditional priest who is motivated by the money rather than the service of God and love of souls. All priests I know would offer a Mass gratis for a worthy intention if the person requesting had no means. The other side of the coin is the faithful who selfishly request Masses, Novenas, Gregorians for the uncle of the friend of every third cousin who dies or gets a headache, and they offer a pittance, weighing down the priest and expecting him to suffer all the inconvenience. After all, there are, especially nowadays, so few priests to serve so many faithful, so we need to be considerate of others, and the priest, when requesting Masses.
It is likely that too many people do not pitch in anything for the collection during Mass or ever. If we have it then God expects us to give something. And whatever we give, one way or the other God promises us that we will get it back. "That thy alms may be in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret will repay thee."[Matthew 6:4] 

Whether SSPX or whatever, each chapel all have bills to pay, buildings that have to be maintained, the priests need to eat, have a car(s), and those need to be maintained, buy gas, buy groceries, necessities and so on just like the rest of us. My guess is too many people never consider stipends at all for funerals, confirmations etc. which forces them to put out a list like this. 

Traditionally, people always gave money - look at the marvelous buildings, cathedrals, altars, statues and on and on - where did the money come from if not from the people who freely gave?
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