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« on: September 22, 2016, 06:59:28 PM »
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    • An Italian Catholic woman has written a  book about being submissive wives.  There's an article about the book and an interview at the Christian Post website....there may be other articles on Catholic sites, I just haven't searched for them.

    Here's a link:

    https://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/marry-him-and-be-submissive.html

    I'm glad to see this as I haven't found any books written by Catholic women about submission.
    but there are plenty by Protestants, one Mormon and even one secular, that I know about ....


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    « Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 07:18:07 PM »
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    • Briefly looking at it, it has all the appearances of a profane book with some vague no doubt flawed idea of submission thrown in.
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    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 08:26:24 PM »
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    An Italian Catholic woman has written a  book about being submissive wives.  There's an article about the book and an interview at the Christian Post website....there may be other articles on Catholic sites, I just haven't searched for them.

    Here's a link:

    https://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/marry-him-and-be-submissive.html

    I'm glad to see this as I haven't found any books written by Catholic women about submission.
    but there are plenty by Protestants, one Mormon and even one secular, that I know about ....


    This is a new-school Novus Ordo TAN book if ever I saw one. How sad that TAN Books was bought by a Novus Ordo company.

    Here is the gag-inducing blurb for the book:

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    ARE WE REALLY CALLED TO BE SUBMISSIVE?

    Wives, be submissive? Really? Well, yeah…and here’s why it will lead to a more fulfilling marriage and life!

    In Marry Him and Be Submissive, Costanza Miriano dishes on all the hurdles and difficulties that real women face in dating, marriage, and motherhood. In a series of letters to her closest friends, Miriano offers sage, frank, and hilarious advice on:

    • Whether to keep waiting to get married (No! Dive in! You’ll never be 100% “ready.”)
    • How to stop worrying about all the cushy “first world problems” and embrace the true joys of family life (even if it means cutting back on Facebook a little)
    • What it means—really means—when your husband doesn’t seem to be listening (he’s probably thinking about soccer, but he still loves you)
    • How to maintain your life after pregnancy (you can’t! It’s over! But your new life will be so much better)
    • How to get through the day after you realize your kids went out with dirty underwear, or worse, no underwear (hint: wine helps)

    Miriano boldly, playfully, and profoundly takes the lives and loves of modern women head on, and shows how true marital happiness and holiness is found in submission. And she shows how submission—real, true submission, which is about love, humility, and support—will lead you to salvation. Far from belittling women, it empowers them (and their families) in ways that secular feminism can only dream of.  

    International Best Seller – over 100,000 copies sold
    Multiple translations. Praised by the Vatican!
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    Marry Him and Be Submissive
    « Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 11:08:06 AM »
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    • Why is this in the "Anonymous" section? Anyway, this books sounds like typical Novus Ordo trash...but I repeat myself.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 12:23:24 PM »
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    Praised by the Vatican!



    Perhaps this tells you all you need to know.
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    Marry Him and Be Submissive
    « Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 08:32:21 PM »
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    • Just from the little posted on the thread, the book seems utterly shallow and superficial.
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    « Reply #6 on: May 22, 2017, 12:44:57 PM »
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    • In addition to Marry Him and Be Submissive, Sig.ra Miriano wrote another one recently translated into English and also published by TAN this year: Marry Her and Die for Her.

    Her story-telling style with practical wisdom and theological insights sprinkled in here and there might not appeal to everyone, but her books are definitely not Novus Ordo trash like Christopher West's "Theology of the Body" ones.
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    « Reply #7 on: May 22, 2017, 12:56:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 23, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
    Perhaps this tells you all you need to know.
    You also need to know the book has been demonized by many, "claiming it promoted 'violence against women'," as the publisher's note puts it. Eph. 5:22 is a truth not defended frequently enough, even in traditional circles.
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    « Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 04:33:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 22, 2016, 08:26:24 PM
    Here is the gag-inducing blurb for the book:
    well, there is a lot of truth to the notion that if people would just stop "standing up for their rights" and be willing to SUFFER a little, maybe they wouldn't be so miserable, which seems like a contradictory thing to say but it isn't for a true Catholic
    the problem in this world is that no one wants to suffer for their loved ones much anymore... It's all about getting this, getting that and avoiding suffering
    right.. how absolutely UN=realistic and un-do-able
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    « Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 04:36:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 22, 2017, 12:56:04 PM
    You also need to know the book has been demonized by many, "claiming it promoted 'violence against women'," as the publisher's note puts it. Eph. 5:22 is a truth not defended frequently enough, even in traditional circles.
    if a woman is being abused she needs to LEAVE asap
    accepting physical abuse or egregious mental/emotional abuse is WRONG
    God did not make anyone to be someone else's punching bag or scapegoat. That said, if you aren't a little of a scapegoat you are not walking in Jesus's shoes... to Calvary
    it can be tricky knowing which sufferings you should accept for the sake of Jesus and which not.. but being beat on is a no-brainer (or even being contantly ridiculed, etc
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    Re: Marry Him and Be Submissive
    « Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 06:41:12 PM »
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    • Well said to the poster right before me.  My mother continues to be in an abusive marriage with my father.  He has no respect for her or any woman.  He is constantly insulting her and putting her down.  She is told that her cooking is killing him, and can't do anything right.  This is what is said when the adult children are at home.  It gets worse when he thinks no one is home.  Constant berating when he is in a bad mood.  Good mood or in public...you would never know, but something in the church/politics/society upsets him....off he goes.  She says its her cross to bear in life, and claims the submissive role as a woman because her SSPX and bishop preached it.  A person doesn't deserve that.
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    Re: Marry Him and Be Submissive
    « Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 04:16:19 AM »
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    • RoughAshlar, women have become saints by practicing faithfulness, courage, patience and prayer for less than perfect husbands. Some bad husbands have achieved salvation through the sacrifices made by their loving spouse.
     Your mother married "for better or worse", and she is keeping her marriage vow.  She has a cross to bear and she is carrying it as directed by Our Lord Himself: "Take up your cross and follow Me." It may be painful for her and for you and your family. Crosses are always painful. Nevertheless, it may be the means of her salvation and his.

    Your mother must be a very prayerful woman. Just support her and give her your love and support. She knows what is best. Pray too for your father to overcome whatever it is that is the cause of his unloving behaviour. :pray:

    "In like manner also let wives be subject to their husbands: that if any believe not the word, they may be won without the word, by the conversation of the wives." [1 Peter 3:1]

    "Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things."
    [Ephesians 5:24]

    "Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it:" [Ephesians 5:25]

    "So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself." 
    [Ephesians 5:28]

    "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as it behoveth in the Lord." [Colossians 3:18]

    "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter towards them." [Colossians 3:19]
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    « Reply #12 on: May 25, 2017, 03:41:54 PM »
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    • Anonymous ( two posts up) Pray to St Rita... she knows what its like. Wonderworker
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    « Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 04:51:47 PM »
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    • This is not as simple as it may seem. The Word of God says not to be closely associated with unbelievers. obviously, a belivr is not going to abuse people, so why would a woman stay with an abusive (un-Christian) man? Maybe I love myself too much or something but I would never be in a chronically abusive relationship. To me it is simple: someone is abusive, they do not care about you OR (worse) obeying Jesus.

    So who needs that kind of person?
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    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2017, 08:40:37 PM »
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    • I guess if you follow your will rather than that of Jesus as given by the true Church then you would commit sin and may go to hell. You should ask your traditional priest for guidance.
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