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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #105 on: July 04, 2025, 04:44:21 AM »
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  • Is he right? Are men the prize when it comes to marriage?

    So secular men think they are the prize, and secular women think they are the prize? The problem is that when you come at coupling as who is the prize, then no one wins.  It is just a superficial measurement that are competitive, Godless society thinks is important.  It is not.  Love of God is the most important measurement in finding a spouse. 
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    « Reply #106 on: July 04, 2025, 07:32:20 AM »
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  • So secular men think they are the prize, and secular women think they are the prize? The problem is that when you come at coupling as who is the prize, then no one wins.  It is just a superficial measurement that are competitive, Godless society thinks is important.  It is not.  Love of God is the most important measurement in finding a spouse.
    Men are the prize because they initiate courting, the proposal, the marriage, mating and children.  Men are responsible for taking care of the family - protection, security, and religious instruction.  Women are helpmates.  It’s how God designed it.  Modern women have inverted God’s hierarchy.

    What you describe above ignores God’s authority and the special graces He gives to the husband/father alone.  


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #107 on: July 04, 2025, 11:15:55 AM »
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  • Men are the prize because they initiate courting, the proposal, the marriage, mating and children.  Men are responsible for taking care of the family - protection, security, and religious instruction.  Women are helpmates.  It’s how God designed it.  Modern women have inverted God’s hierarchy.

    What you describe above ignores God’s authority and the special graces He gives to the husband/father alone. 
    If men are doing all the work, shouldn't they win a prize?  The prize analogy makes no sense.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #108 on: July 04, 2025, 11:18:10 AM »
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  • So secular men think they are the prize, and secular women think they are the prize? The problem is that when you come at coupling as who is the prize, then no one wins.  It is just a superficial measurement that are competitive, Godless society thinks is important.  It is not.  Love of God is the most important measurement in finding a spouse.
    Men have resources, more so when they hit their 30s. When women hit their 30s, their attractiveness goes down because of lower fertility, etc. If those 30-year old women were rejecting men in their 20s, the tables have turned for them when those same men are rejecting them for younger women. When women these days can make out like a bandit during the divorce, men have to be extra careful when choosing a wife. 

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #109 on: July 04, 2025, 01:54:21 PM »
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  • If men are doing all the work, shouldn't they win a prize?  The prize analogy makes no sense.
    Sure it does.  You just want to accept the truth.  

    Men are perfectly happy being alone.  Women are not.  As God told Eve in the garden — Your desire shall be for your husband —.  Men do not have the same desire for family that women do.  Because men can take care of themselves, while women cannot.  

    The modern world has to brainwash women to be alone — you’re independent, you’re strong, you don’t need a man — meanwhile the opposite is true.  Women need men way, way, way more than men need women.  Modern women will be reminded of this when it’s too late. 


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #110 on: July 04, 2025, 03:13:22 PM »
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  • Sure it does.  You just want to accept the truth. 

    Men are perfectly happy being alone.  Women are not.  As God told Eve in the garden — Your desire shall be for your husband —.  Men do not have the same desire for family that women do.  Because men can take care of themselves, while women cannot. 

    The modern world has to brainwash women to be alone — you’re independent, you’re strong, you don’t need a man — meanwhile the opposite is true.  Women need men way, way, way more than men need women.  Modern women will be reminded of this when it’s too late.
    The truth?  What truth are you talking about?  What truth am I not accepting?  I think any person who is single has it tough right now.  Different people need different things.  If a woman needs a man like you say, then why are nuns happy?  If you are talking about secular women, then that is a whole different minefield. Is it possible to find a women who is not Catholic and convert her? Yes.  I have seen many marriages start that way.  Why do you care so much about secular society?  Are you able to change it? 

    My guess is that you are just continuing this conversation because you enjoy saying how wrong I am.  

    I don't think most men are perfectly happy being alone.  Nobody really wants to be alone.  

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #111 on: July 04, 2025, 03:14:02 PM »
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  • The truth?  What truth are you talking about?  What truth am I not accepting?  I think any person who is single has it tough right now.  Different people need different things.  If a woman needs a man like you say, then why are nuns happy?  If you are talking about secular women, then that is a whole different minefield. Is it possible to find a women who is not Catholic and convert her? Yes.  I have seen many marriages start that way.  Why do you care so much about secular society?  Are you able to change it?

    My guess is that you are just continuing this conversation because you enjoy saying how wrong I am. 

    I don't think most men are perfectly happy being alone.  Nobody really wants to be alone. 
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    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #112 on: July 04, 2025, 04:47:32 PM »
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  • The truth?  What truth are you talking about?  What truth am I not accepting?  I think any person who is single has it tough right now.  Different people need different things.  If a woman needs a man like you say, then why are nuns happy?  If you are talking about secular women, then that is a whole different minefield. Is it possible to find a women who is not Catholic and convert her? Yes.  I have seen many marriages start that way.  Why do you care so much about secular society?  Are you able to change it?

    My guess is that you are just continuing this conversation because you enjoy saying how wrong I am. 

    I don't think most men are perfectly happy being alone.  Nobody really wants to be alone. 
    Not related to what I said. 


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #113 on: July 04, 2025, 04:59:54 PM »
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  • The truth?  What truth are you talking about?  What truth am I not accepting?  
    That women need men more, therefore men are the prize. 

    Modern women (Trad and non) won’t accept reality, which is why they are so puffed up with pride.  

    A true woman (Trad or even pagan) who accepts her role as less than a man, both in the natural order and in the spiritual order, is acting like Our Lady, in showing her femininity.  

    And femininity is what makes a man want to die for his woman.  But most women (even Trads) have fallen victim to the demonic deceptions of — happy wife, happy life — that most marriages are doomed, even Trads ones.  Trad marriages may endure but they won’t be happy.  

    Because modern women constantly strive and yearn to act like men, not accepting their place in God’s order.  You continue to ignore these truths.  

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #114 on: July 04, 2025, 05:03:41 PM »
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  • The truth?  What truth are you talking about?  What truth am I not accepting?  I think any person who is single has it tough right now.  Different people need different things.  If a woman needs a man like you say, then why are nuns happy?  If you are talking about secular women, then that is a whole different minefield. Is it possible to find a women who is not Catholic and convert her? Yes.  I have seen many marriages start that way.  Why do you care so much about secular society?  Are you able to change it?

    My guess is that you are just continuing this conversation because you enjoy saying how wrong I am. 

    I don't think most men are perfectly happy being alone.  Nobody really wants to be alone. 

    The cope is strong in this one

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #115 on: July 04, 2025, 05:06:26 PM »
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  • That women need men more, therefore men are the prize.

    Modern women (Trad and non) won’t accept reality, which is why they are so puffed up with pride. 

    A true woman (Trad or even pagan) who accepts her role as less than a man, both in the natural order and in the spiritual order, is acting like Our Lady, in showing her femininity. 

    And femininity is what makes a man want to die for his woman.  But most women (even Trads) have fallen victim to the demonic deceptions of — happy wife, happy life — that most marriages are doomed, even Trads ones.  Trad marriages may endure but they won’t be happy. 

    Because modern women constantly strive and yearn to act like men, not accepting their place in God’s order.  You continue to ignore these truths. 

    Very well put my brother. The spell of boomerism is starting to break finally.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #116 on: July 04, 2025, 05:25:10 PM »
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  • The cope is strong in this one
    I do not even know what this means.

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #117 on: July 04, 2025, 05:35:42 PM »
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  • That women need men more, therefore men are the prize.

    Modern women (Trad and non) won’t accept reality, which is why they are so puffed up with pride. 

    A true woman (Trad or even pagan) who accepts her role as less than a man, both in the natural order and in the spiritual order, is acting like Our Lady, in showing her femininity. 

    And femininity is what makes a man want to die for his woman.  But most women (even Trads) have fallen victim to the demonic deceptions of — happy wife, happy life — that most marriages are doomed, even Trads ones.  Trad marriages may endure but they won’t be happy. 

    Because modern women constantly strive and yearn to act like men, not accepting their place in God’s order.  You continue to ignore these truths. 
    But do women look at men as if they are a prize?  I am not sure you can answer that question, because you are not a woman.

    I do not even have to broach this topic because I have my prize (just using your terminology, even though I don't agree with it)

    True a women who accepts her place is a treasure.  

    I think your picture of marriage is a sad one.  I do know that many trad marriages are not happy, (I think the married women here on CI probably have better marriages than most).  Why is this?

    I do not ignore these truths, but keep telling yourself that.  I just don't have to worry about them as much because I am not raising daughters and I am not looking for a husband.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #118 on: July 04, 2025, 06:20:25 PM »
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  • Your response is complete gibberish. 

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #119 on: July 04, 2025, 06:52:05 PM »
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  • That women need men more
    Yes this truth is found in Scripture because women are saved through childbirth.  She absolutely can't do that without a man.  And those who become spiritual mothers can't do that without men either because they require the Church. 

    Men on the other hand don't need women, but they do prefer to have one.

    Women never choose.  It's the man who chooses.  She can only say yes or no.  Even in a bad marriage the man is the one who chooses.  She's along for the ride.