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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2025, 06:10:08 PM »
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  • Obviously as the law of the Church is 14 youngest... I don't think OP is interested in 12 yr olds. ~17 is usually what most guys like.
    "What most guys like" as in sɛҳuąƖ attraction or as in a life-long partner who will be the mature Traditional Catholic mother of his children?

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #46 on: June 26, 2025, 06:24:49 PM »
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  • "What most guys like" as in sɛҳuąƖ attraction or as in a life-long partner who will be the mature Traditional Catholic mother of his children?

    Both.
    Uncorrupted virgins are the most likely to be good Catholic mothers, everything else being equal. Just stating a fact.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #47 on: June 26, 2025, 07:54:08 PM »
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  • "What most guys like" as in sɛҳuąƖ attraction or as in a life-long partner who will be the mature Traditional Catholic mother of his children?
    Both. Younger women have more energy for their children and husband, have less expections and experiences and entitlement, are more fertile, less jaded/bitter, cuter and less brainwashed. Economy pushes back marriage for men, education is what pushed back marriage for women.

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #48 on: June 26, 2025, 08:00:26 PM »
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  • I recall now that Aristotle said the idea ages to marry were 37 for the man and 18 for the woman. 
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 09:15:27 AM »
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  • Seriously, how are there any people who want to put limits on this when the Holy Family had a 20 year age gap AT THE VERY LEAST.
    Some Fathers even thought he was an old man. 

    You people who try to promote this closeness in age as being the ideal are either boomers, Jews or just plain stupid.

    The IDEAL is a large age gap. For what marriage is and what its meant to do. Namely : SERVE THE CHURCH AND SOCIETY.

    If you think otherwise in good faith, you have been brainwashed by the inversion of the marriage ends that has taken place over the last 200 years, and in the Church since Vatican II.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 10:29:18 AM »
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  • Seriously, how are there any people who want to put limits on this when the Holy Family had a 20 year age gap AT THE VERY LEAST.
    Some Fathers even thought he was an old man.

    You people who try to promote this closeness in age as being the ideal are either boomers, Jews or just plain stupid.

    The IDEAL is a large age gap. For what marriage is and what its meant to do. Namely : SERVE THE CHURCH AND SOCIETY.

    If you think otherwise in good faith, you have been brainwashed by the inversion of the marriage ends that has taken place over the last 200 years, and in the Church since Vatican II.
    I don’t understand why people keep bringing up the Holy Family.  Joseph and Mary did not have a sɛҳuąƖ relationship.  Also, on the flip side, a 37 year old man will be 67 when his 14 year old bride is no longer fertile.  The baby they could have at age 10 will have a father that is 77.  Do you think that’s ideal?  If an energetic mother is important, isn’t the same true for a father?

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 11:23:25 AM »
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  • So you're taking an average middle aged man, worrying about conceiving a child with a younger wife at the end of HER fertility, and then fast-forwarding how old he'll be at different stages of the child's life?

    I guess the only conclusion is "sometimes you have old parents". This is true for many "Gen Z approved" equal-age marriages as well.

    What if you conceive at 42 or something? You'll be 60 when your child is graduating High School. Such is life.
    But more realistically -- your wife will be AT LEAST a couple years younger than you. What if you have a child at the very end of her fertility? You'd add a few more years then. The dad is going to be older.

    And how healthy/active is a man at 60? It HIGHLY VARIES. Some men are in "scooter ville", with a handicap sticker on their car, no longer able to walk around the big box store on their own power. Others are still playing sports. It all depends on genetics, lifestyle, career, and how they took care of themselves.

    So no, it's not required or even "average" to be the energetic, youthful 20-year old dad who is as active/healthy as a child himself.

    Yes, if you happen to be the youngest child, and your parents conceived you in the late autumn of their fertility -- then yes, you are going to have older parents.

    Some people have to bury their first parent before they turn 20; others have their parents with them for almost their whole life. In fact, some parents have to bury their children! It's just the inequality of life.

    Even if you have parents 45+ years older than you, some people have *additional* crosses to bear. For example, I know one woman who is in her late 40's but she doesn't look a day under 70. No exaggeration, either. Did she use meth? I know she's a smoker. She had all her teeth removed and looks like she doesn't bother with false teeth. She had a daughter when she was in her low 40's. Imagine that daughter's situation.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #52 on: Yesterday at 12:06:12 PM »
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  • I don’t understand why people keep bringing up the Holy Family.  Joseph and Mary did not have a sɛҳuąƖ relationship.  Also, on the flip side, a 37 year old man will be 67 when his 14 year old bride is no longer fertile.  The baby they could have at age 10 will have a father that is 77.  Do you think that’s ideal?  If an energetic mother is important, isn’t the same true for a father?
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    Matthew, I see your point, but aren’t we talking about ideal situations here?  I just had a baby at age 45.  I am pretty healthy and we have a large family, even though I got married later.  My husband is 8 years older than me.  I was 27 when we got married. He’s 53, with a baby.  So when baby is 18, he will be 71.

    It seems to me that some are placing such incredible importance of marrying a young teenager.  Said teen wife will not always be beautiful.  Just want to make sure that’s a reality that the OP understands as sɛҳuąƖ attraction seems of very high importance to him.  By the way, I think 18 is okay.  

    Just in case one wonders, I’m not coping, I live in the world of reality.  I know I am way past my peak and recognize that’s the way it is.  I have been told I look like I’m in my early 30s.  I eat healthy.  Also not in the least bit bothered when my husband comments on the beauty of prospective girls at our chapel for our older boy.  I too appreciate the beauty of teenage girls as they are at the peak of their attractiveness, it’s God’s creation.  I happily trade in my looks for my life experience and richness of having a good Catholic husband and many children.  I’m very secure in my relationship with my husband, so no cope here.  
    Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 12:12:22 PM »
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  • My husband is also 8-9 years older and I couldn’t fathom marrying someone 10+ years older. My parents are 10 years apart (dad is older). Maybe my max is 15. I wouldn’t want to marry someone who could be my dad/same age as my parents. If the economy is far worse than it is now, maybe women would be marrying older men. 

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  • I can give similar reasons (to avoiding older women) to why I wouldn't recommend older men (like 10+ years) as a first choice. Less likely to be a virgin, they'll have more sɛҳuąƖ experience, more jaded/bitter with women (if they've been looking for long), they'd die earlier and i'd be alone for a longer time. And men closer to my age are more physically attractive than a much older man. And they have more energy and motivation compared to an older man. 



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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • I can give similar reasons (to avoiding older women) to why I wouldn't recommend older men (like 10+ years) as a first choice. Less likely to be a virgin, they'll have more sɛҳuąƖ experience, more jaded/bitter with women (if they've been looking for long), they'd die earlier and i'd be alone for a longer time. And men closer to my age are more physically attractive than a much older man. And they have more energy and motivation compared to an older man.
    That was me. 


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • It seems to me that some are placing such incredible importance of marrying a young teenager.  Said teen wife will not always be beautiful.  Just want to make sure that’s a reality that the OP understands as sɛҳuąƖ attraction seems of very high importance to him.  By the way, I think 18 is okay.  
    Beauty is only a secondary reason to marrying young.  The primary would be two things - health/fertility and less corruption by the world.  The less dating experience a woman has, the better the marriage. 

    And before you argue against this, no, dating experience isn't a necessity.  Some is necessary, but not a lot.  Prayer and Divine Providence take care of one's vocation.

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • I don’t understand why people keep bringing up the Holy Family.  Joseph and Mary did not have a sɛҳuąƖ relationship.  Also, on the flip side, a 37 year old man will be 67 when his 14 year old bride is no longer fertile.  The baby they could have at age 10 will have a father that is 77.  Do you think that’s ideal?  If an energetic mother is important, isn’t the same true for a father?
    And I dont know why people keep denying the example of the Holy Family!!!!

    Its crazy!

    Why would GOD ALMIGHTY give us the EXAMPLE OF EXAMPLES for the family! And then want us to go the opposite way!

    And no the same is not true for a Father. You clearly dont know anyone who is in a an age gap marriage. I do. And it works better than other marriages.

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  • That was me, The Mrs

    Matthew, I see your point, but aren’t we talking about ideal situations here?  I just had a baby at age 45.  I am pretty healthy and we have a large family, even though I got married later.  My husband is 8 years older than me.  I was 27 when we got married. He’s 53, with a baby.  So when baby is 18, he will be 71.

    It seems to me that some are placing such incredible importance of marrying a young teenager.  Said teen wife will not always be beautiful.  Just want to make sure that’s a reality that the OP understands as sɛҳuąƖ attraction seems of very high importance to him.  By the way, I think 18 is okay. 

    Just in case one wonders, I’m not coping, I live in the world of reality.  I know I am way past my peak and recognize that’s the way it is.  I have been told I look like I’m in my early 30s.  I eat healthy.  Also not in the least bit bothered when my husband comments on the beauty of prospective girls at our chapel for our older boy.  I too appreciate the beauty of teenage girls as they are at the peak of their attractiveness, it’s God’s creation.  I happily trade in my looks for my life experience and richness of having a good Catholic husband and many children.  I’m very secure in my relationship with my husband, so no cope here. 

    Yes we are talking about ideals! Is being energetic the sum of marriage? Honestly, when you hear people talk like this it makes me wonder what they think life is about at all.

    Well so much for wisdom of year, guiding the wife in her natural female weakness. Being a steady hand... etc. etc. But no! So long as you can run around a baseball field, then that is what makes you a good dad!

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • My husband is also 8-9 years older and I couldn’t fathom marrying someone 10+ years older. My parents are 10 years apart (dad is older). Maybe my max is 15. I wouldn’t want to marry someone who could be my dad/same age as my parents. If the economy is far worse than it is now, maybe women would be marrying older men.
    Thats because you as a woman look around you, rather than think with principles.
    All women do that. Its impossible to get out of you.
    Thats why you need to be lead. You see a society now where age gaps are held in disdain. But in 50 years that will have changed, and the women then will be saying something different.