This has to be one of the most offensive threads I've ever read on Cathinfo.  I am surprised Matthew allows it.  It makes trads look like perverts.

I got an account after being a longtime lurker, because I had time while recovering from surgery.

I have been treated rudely, with contempt, called names, and all sorts of things.  If you lot are the best of the trad world, the world is in trouble. You are by far, THE most uncharitable people I've ever come across.

Adios.  I'm done here.

Solid analysis brother.

As a man, who has been in multiple age gap relationships (marriage attempts lets call it) now, I can say that its not as hard to find women who are willing, but it is hard to find women who are stable enough to get all the way. I keep noticing that.

It's genuinely nothing wrong with me. (Not saying that I'm perfect), but there is 100 percent something more and more wrong with young women these days, and I am not the only one seeing it.

Spiritually I have been advised, by a wise older layman, to pray hard to St. Joseph. Which he regretted not doing. I'm trying to take that advice.

There are multiple reasons for general craziness. One is their bad fathers. Best will in the world might be there, but their fathers are hopeless. However, to be fair, there are many situations, where its not that. So you can't blame it all on that.

Within tradition, I find the objection to age gaps is much, much stronger than in indult/novus ordo/ worldly groups. It's ironic really. Sometimes even our own priests are against it. So what can you do if the parents and even the priests are against it. And I am talking about resistance priests here.

So in a way, I have almost ruled out meeting someone within the resistance. Though seeing some of the good reactions here on this forum gives me hope. Because a resistance girl will be much more solidly formed than a girl with a past in the world. And by past in the world I do not mean promiscuity. Just bad character formation (from divorced or troubled backgrounds etc. )

I take heart also by seeing all the other men who really have this worked out. I know I'm not the only one noticing this age gap objection madness, and not the only one really trying to verbalize whats wrong with it. Even more hope by knowing that these guys are probably younger than me. The madness of the general populace of young men also infuriates me too, though in a different way.

Sometimes, though the resistance parents will be fine with the age gaps, but then the girls have picked up the brainwashing from other quarters. And this does make me angry. Not at the parents, as they may have done their best, but just at the general evil of the thing. Because it's highly probable that these girls will not realize how stupid they are until it is too late. (and before you say it, I am taking into account that she is "just not attracted to you" etc. etc.)

Ironically some of them I hear go off and marry absolute morons of men. I don't say that with any bitterness, genuinely. These guys are often totally faithless or worldly, or generally lacking in brain cells. It's almost like these girls want to spite their parents and the massive effort they put into their upbringing. For me, it matters little, cos I just move on. But I do feel for the parents who would much rather have had me for a son in law, than the walking nincompoop their daughter chose. Lol. What are you gonna do. Pray.

As tradition gets smaller, and God smites some, He also raises up others. Conversions come from surprising places. So, younger men than me, I say this: total trust in God is of utmost importance.

I know God and His Blessed Mother will pull through for me. They always have, and always will.


Holy Mary, pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of our death.... Amen.

Are you sure the poster was a woman?  Could this person be who posted the comment?
https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/cathinfo-infested-with-malicious-lying-trolls-again/msg1004113/#msg1004113

Please do not assume that all posts you disagree with are written by women.  It's not fair.

I'm that poster you were replying to, and I could not agree more.

It has indeed bothered me how little women I talk to in tradition just don't care about being holy.

I mentioned this to a priest lately, and he said there are women out there who do. But I said that while this is true, it's only the ones that couldn't consider for marriage, like older, already married women, or single mothers.  And I'm a pretty flexible guy.

Its the whole overestimating their own excellence (literally the Thomistic definition of pride), while they are young, and the time that they think they have, which is destroying them.

But they do it "a la trad". In a different, more subtle way.

Even the ones that do things by the book, such as in the case of modesty, don't actually care about being fervent. Very little spiritual reading done. Its more reputation based thinking. Sure you might wear a skirt, but do you actually want to be a saint?

You're right, being against an age gap is ultimately a red flag. I mean goodness, are there any sane women there? Hard to know.

Sounds strange but to assume that poster was a woman is actually giving them some slack.

Its much worse if it was a man

1st Timothy 2
11A woman ^a should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; ^b she must be quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women ^c will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

trying to explain this to western women is impossible. “There will come a time when men will not endure sound doctrine” well….. welcome to it. 🤷‍♂️ They are far too “ educated” and self sufficient. Of course the opposite of that is not good either. There is no balance any more everything’s been pushed to the extremes. But here we sit with birth rates plummeted, divorce rates sky rocketed, movements like mgtow happening. Everything is fine and we should just keep doing what we’re doing! 😵‍💫
The recent controversy between Joe heshmier and Timothy Gordon is one worth listening to. I believe one of the female respondent used the word phlegmatic. So if they are not analyzing us by the position of the stars on a given day like via whoreiscopes they are judging us by the amount of bile or phlegm we produce hahah you can’t win! They don’t say simply this man loves God and I can trust him to make decisions and have the final word. God didn’t say if he is this type do this if he is this type do that. He simply said submit to the man as the man submits to me! Women will not be judged for the outcomes of the decisions made they will be judged by how well they followed His instructions. Gods instructions. But back to the subject, I’m not sure older women can be instructed like this. Younger women……. Maybe. It would be considered misogynistic to say you have to train your wife but if the parents are not doing it……. What does that mean for the spouse?

Please define exactly what teaching in the church means (for the casual observers). When I hear that I am to stay silent (I and maybe others think on all things)  Are we not allowed to have opinions or ideas or anything useful to society except raising children?  This is only a small part of life, the ages 15 (to show I am not against age gaps, but 18 is more preferable to show that i am not encouraging something that 2025 looks poorly on) to 55, but then what are women useful for if the live to 90?