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« Reply #465 on: Yesterday at 05:59:21 PM »
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  • Yep.  Women aren’t really capable of thinking big-picture and their brainwashing has them interpret such comments from men as either mansplaining or complaining about something you can’t control. 

    But it IS men’s job to control these problems.  Women have the luxury of avoiding these issues.  But modern women have been programmed to compete with men, instead of support them, thus when men try to point out problems, women either ignore, minimize or argue.  

    Yes, we are cooked. 

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    « Reply #466 on: Yesterday at 09:43:34 PM »
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  • :confused:  I'll spell it out for you:
    - A lack of marriages are partially due to women being overly-picky.
    Let's be real men are picky to.  The women needs to have never been touched by another man and attractive, perfect weight.  Nothing is ever said about her chacter.
    - A lack of marriages is a societal problem, with very bad consequences, for the Church and chapter.
    I don't disagree with this.
    - Age-gaps are an example of being overly-picky.
    Maybe, but I really would like a direct quote from me or anyone else on this forum who has said they will not accept an age gap of 12 years for them or their daughter.
    - Realizing that age-gap pickiness is a problem, helps to counter the false-narrative, which helps the Church
    This is not the only concern.   A good Catholic women is more important than the age gap.

    Admitting there is a problem, is the first step to fixing it.  As a woman, if you don't admit this is a problem, then you will be unable to help other women see the problem.

    I try to help women to the best of my ability.  It is not fair to automatically assume that I do not do this.

    This problem is bigger than you.  It's about helping society, not just your own, personal catholic life.

    The problem is bigger than all of us.  Hence we need to focus on God's will.
    This is what I would have said, but I gave up and put the :facepalm: emoji because I knew that whatever I said people were going to twist into a bad emotion and I was frustrated.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #467 on: Yesterday at 09:52:46 PM »
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  • I'm not the guys you have been talking to but this is not a response.
    He made the effort to think of a good answer. Structured it well. Explain himself clearly, and all you can do is make fun of it.

    Women complain men don't lead, then they do lead by thinking and explaining, and they get this brash pride thrown back in their face.

    We are so cooked.
    See post at 943pm. And if you think we are cooked because women won't change, then doesn't that follow that women have more influence than men.  I think men have more influence.  I think God will back men who stand for Truth.  It saddens me that some men don't seem to think this way.

    And I have noted that for men :facepalm: this means they are making fun of me.  I was not making fun of the poster.  I was frustrated.  Please do not think you know my intent.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #468 on: Yesterday at 10:10:08 PM »
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  • This is what I would have said, but I gave up and put the :facepalm: emoji because I knew that whatever I said people were going to twist into a bad emotion and I was frustrated.
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    Let's be real men are picky to. The women needs to have never been touched by another man and attractive, perfect weight. Nothing is ever said about her chacter.
    Every woman is born with her youth and virginity/chastity. It has always been expected that a woman keeps herself for her husband. This is so vital that men instinctively know this. You are strawmanning again. It's not perfect weight, just don't be fat. Her character is always mentioned. Be feminine, be obedient.


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    « Reply #469 on: Yesterday at 10:35:15 PM »
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  • My 2 cents, gray. These boys are just that, boys. They're boys that, for some reason, are hell bent on refusing to learn to embrace the problems of life. They refuse to grow up and learn to be men. They'd rather create litanies of doom and despair than spend even one second looking at what good God has done in their life. The choice is theirs. You're not going to argue or discuss them into growing up.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #470 on: Yesterday at 10:46:45 PM »
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  • Yep.  Women aren’t really capable of thinking big-picture and their brainwashing has them interpret such comments from men as either mansplaining or complaining about something you can’t control.

    Did this make you feel better to say?

    But it IS men’s job to control these problems.  Women have the luxury of avoiding these issues?

    The language you use confuses me.  Is authority about control or leadership?  Are those concepts the same thing?

    But modern women have been programmed to compete with men, instead of support them, thus when men try to point out problems, women either ignore, minimize or argue.

    I don't understand your generalizations and I don't think you are being fair.  Women are not only ever doing the wrong thing.  What does support look like to you?

    Yes, we are cooked.

    Which seems like a hopeless statement.  And two people are thinking it.  How many more agree?
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #471 on: Yesterday at 10:52:30 PM »
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  • Every woman is born with her youth and virginity/chastity. It has always been expected that a woman keeps herself for her husband. This is so vital that men instinctively know this. You are strawmanning again. It's not perfect weight, just don't be fat. Her character is always mentioned. Be feminine, be obedient.
    So you are allowed to have a list and if I challenge it, I am strawmanning.  If a women has a list, she is too picky. Why the double standard?
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  • My 2 cents, gray. These boys are just that, boys. They're boys that, for some reason, are hell bent on refusing to learn to embrace the problems of life. They refuse to grow up and learn to be men. They'd rather create litanies of doom and despair than spend even one second looking at what good God has done in their life. The choice is theirs. You're not going to argue or discuss them into growing up.


    Sometimes, you have to give up on people, not because you don’t care but because they don’t
    So you are allowed to have a list and if I challenge it, I am strawmanning.  If a women has a list, she is too picky. Why the double standard?
    No ladies are intentionally ignoring the problem and blaming men. It's the women who dress immodestly not the men, it's the women who have ridiculous standards not the men, it's the women who think age gaps are bad not the men.

    Cucks, simps, and male feminists are not men. They are a problem also but there is more problematic women than male feminists. 

    The immodest dress thread should be seen.


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    « Reply #473 on: Yesterday at 11:04:04 PM »
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  • So you are allowed to have a list and if I challenge it, I am strawmanning.  If a women has a list, she is too picky. Why the double standard?
    The man's list is realistic with things like weight something that can be changed. But The women's list are far stricter, based on their emotions, influenced by feminism, and on things that can't be changed.

    The men have some standards, some men have high standards (and if they don't also meet those high standards that's on them)

    But the woman have impossible standards. A fat woman only wanting a slim or muscular guy, an ugly woman only wanting a handsome man, a young woman only wanting a young man.

    Out of all the girls that show clear interest in me, they are always overweight, every single time, and i am not fat.

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #474 on: Yesterday at 11:52:47 PM »
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  • My 2 cents, gray. These boys are just that, boys. They're boys that, for some reason, are hell bent on refusing to learn to embrace the problems of life. They refuse to grow up and learn to be men. They'd rather create litanies of doom and despair than spend even one second looking at what good God has done in their life. The choice is theirs. You're not going to argue or discuss them into growing up.


    Sometimes, you have to give up on people, not because you don’t care but because they don’t
    Thank you for your two cents. I do enjoy these discussions.  I am not upset or anything. At this point these are just words on a screen and i am hopeful that if it doesn't effect the people i am talking to, which i have no idea how many different voices there are, that maybe someone gets something out of the discussions.
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  • The man's list is realistic with things like weight something that can be changed. But The women's list are far stricter, based on their emotions, influenced by feminism, and on things that can't be changed.

    The men have some standards, some men have high standards (and if they don't also meet those high standards that's on them)

    But the woman have impossible standards. A fat woman only wanting a slim or muscular guy, an ugly woman only wanting a handsome man, a young woman only wanting a young man.

    Out of all the girls that show clear interest in me, they are always overweight, every single time, and i am not fat.
    So you are not happy with the people who show you interest.  Here is how I see it, you must be a sweet and understanding man.  Most women who are fat don't like how they look, you must not make them feel bad about themselves and they feel safe to show interest in you.  That says something good about yourself.  I think the problem might come in that pretty girls want a more confident rough guy, which by nature you might not be.  If you really want to attract thinner girls you might have to lose your sweet caring side and become more of a rebel.  I don't know why it works that way it just does. (If I got it wrong, I apologize.  There is only so much you can know from simple words in a forum.)

    The thing is weight does change and a fat girl might just lose the weight, if a guy she likes pays her attention.  Maybe look for how she might look if she was thinner.
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    « Reply #476 on: Today at 01:50:28 AM »
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  • That says something good about yourself.  I think the problem might come in that pretty girls want a more confident rough guy, which by nature you might not be.  If you really want to attract thinner girls you might have to lose your sweet caring side and become more of a rebel.  I don't know why it works that way it just does. (If I got it wrong, I apologize.  There is only so much you can know from simple words in a forum.)

    The thing is weight does change and a fat girl might just lose the weight, if a guy she likes pays her attention.  Maybe look for how she might look if she was thinner.
    I think the issue is is that I'm somewhat attractive where a 6/8 girl should consider me on their level depending on if I'm there type. But girls want a man who is greater than them.

    Also it's not Catholic to be a rebel, depending on the sense. And I do have a rough side I just keep to myself mainly because it's prudent. And considering my strong belief I can be considered a "rebel' since I don't fully follow either the sspx, resistance or sedes.

    If the slim girls are attracted to me they don't show it. Girls really need to work on their unofficial signalling to men.

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    « Reply #477 on: Today at 01:51:30 AM »
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  • So you are not happy with the people who show you interest.  Here is how I see it, you must be a sweet and understanding man.  Most women who are fat don't like how they look, you must not make them feel bad about themselves and they feel safe to show interest in you.  That says something good about yourself.  I think the problem might come in that pretty girls want a more confident rough guy, which by nature you might not be.  If you really want to attract thinner girls you might have to lose your sweet caring side and become more of a rebel.  I don't know why it works that way it just does. (If I got it wrong, I apologize.  There is only so much you can know from simple words in a forum.)

    The thing is weight does change and a fat girl might just lose the weight, if a guy she likes pays her attention.  Maybe look for how she might look if she was thinner.
    Also fat girls more often than not do not lose weight but gain more. A lady who recently got married was large beforehand but now she has really exploded in mass. I feel so bad for the husband.

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    « Reply #478 on: Today at 02:17:43 AM »
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  • See post at 943pm. And if you think we are cooked because women won't change, then doesn't that follow that women have more influence than men.  I think men have more influence.  I think God will back men who stand for Truth.  It saddens me that some men don't seem to think this way.

    And I have noted that for men :facepalm: this means they are making fun of me.  I was not making fun of the poster.  I was frustrated.  Please do not think you know my intent.

    You have one job as a woman. Be humble. And lady like. It's not hard. You are being asked to change in to the simple way women should be. Namely to take their proper place in society. Both men have to lead and the women step back. 

    Not double down, not create difficultly. 

    You accept somethings, but then you remind me of a child that really takes enormous energy to correct and then demands more energy be put into them! And it's not even our job to correct you, its your husbands and your fathers. 

    The ":facepalm:" does come across as insulting. Don't do it again. 

    Like I said the man you spoke to took leadership and you basically showed no respect for it. If he were my son or brother, I would encourage him. Tell him well done. You just proved why so many men just give up.

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    « Reply #479 on: Today at 02:54:41 AM »
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  • I guess I am anomaly.  I just assumed that even though women have lists, they really rely on their intuition (emotion, but the useful part) to pick a spouse.  By my own standards my husband didn't meet my list, I wanted someone older, he is 2 years younger.  I was interested in Asian men, he was white. We have been together 30 years and have a strong marriage.  (No I am not in charge, just because people make bad assumptions, it doesn't mean they are true.) 

    To the person who is so worried about finding someone, I really think the demons are using your worry against you.  I am sure there are women, who feel that they will never meet the standards of a Traditional Catholic man.

    My only advice is to pray for your chosen spouse (even if you don't know who that is yet) and TRUST God to provide.

    For consideration, some of the men who might be having this conversation are in the 21 to 28 age group. If they want an age gap like Aristotle suggested then they are looking at the 2 year olds to 9 years olds.  I know men talk in theories with no ill will, but women look at practicalities.  I am just saying all this because I want people to understand the frustrations from both sides.
    A woman's intuition is based on how she feels about someone, which is also based on physical appearance.

    It's very common to think better of people who are physically attractive. It's normal to excuse the bad things/mistakes they do but for less attractive people it's either neutral or you are more likely to attribute negative aspects due to their appearance.

    Also am I the only one that finds it incongruous that gray has been married for 30 years? I could have sworn she was younger with young children, perhaps I was mistaken here?