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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #270 on: November 03, 2025, 08:40:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 07:52:10 PM
    I've tried.
    Maybe this will explain it better to you than I have been able:  https://catholicgentleman.com/2023/10/marriage-will-not-cure-your-lust/
    Marriage is a remedy for concupiscence. It's pretty simple really
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #271 on: November 03, 2025, 08:48:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on November 03, 2025, 08:40:43 PM
    Marriage is a remedy for concupiscence. It's pretty simple really
    You are wrong.  I can't help you anymore. I tried.  Maybe someone else can.  Sorry.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #272 on: November 03, 2025, 08:58:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 08:38:25 PM
    It's become clear to me that this is true, although the topic doesn't seem complicated to me....
    One complication is that not every sɛҳuąƖ urge has, properly speaking, lust as its root. It's not uncommon that one has an underlying problem, perhaps loneliness, a desire for union or completeness, that manifests as a sɛҳuąƖ urge. When prayer, fasting, and avoiding temptation doesn't solve the issue, it's time to look deeper into oneself for the cause.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #273 on: November 03, 2025, 09:02:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 08:48:12 PM
    You are wrong.  I can't help you anymore. I tried.  Maybe someone else can.  Sorry.
     :facepalm:


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    Marriages have this good also, that carnal or youthful incontinence, although it be faulty, is brought unto an honest use in the begetting of children, in order that out of the evil of lust the marriage union may bring to pass some good. Next, in that the lust of the flesh is repressed, and rages in a way more modestly, being tempered by parental affection.

    St. Augustine, Of The Good Of Marriage

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    A third reason has been added, as a consequence of the fall of our first parents. On account of the loss of original innocence the passions began to rise in rebellion against right reason; and man, conscious of his own frailty and unwilling to fight the battles of the flesh, is supplied by marriage with an antidote by which to avoid sins of lust. For fear of fornication, says the Apostle, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband; and a little after, having recommended to married persons a temporary abstinence from the marriage debt, to give themselves to prayer, he adds: Return together again, lest Satan tempt you for your incontinency.

    Catechism of the Council of Trent

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    Reply to Objection 3. From the very fact that marriage is intended as an office or as a remedy it has the aspect of something useful and right; nevertheless both aspects belong to it from the fact that it has these goods by which it fulfills the office and affords a remedy to concupiscence.

    Summa, Supp., Q.49, Article 1

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    § 1. The primary end of marriage is the procreation and education of children; the secondary
    [end] is mutual support and a remedy for concupiscence.

    Code of Canon Law, 1917

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #274 on: November 03, 2025, 09:34:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on November 03, 2025, 09:02:50 PM
    :facepalm:
    Trying to find the disconnect.... It just hit me...
    You went from talking about "man burning with lust" to concupiscence.  I assumed you were using the terms interchangeably, even though concupiscence is not a "man burning with lust".
    You sneaky devil.  I'm done with you.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #275 on: November 03, 2025, 09:43:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 09:34:01 PM
    Trying to find the disconnect.... It just hit me...
    You went from talking about "man burning with lust" to concupiscence.
      I assumed you were using the terms interchangeably, even though concupiscence is not a "man burning with lust".
    You sneaky devil. I'm done with you.
    You are the one who labeled "concupiscence" and "burning with sɛҳuąƖ passions" as sins, when they are not:

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    Elisting an unwitting woman as a remedy for a man's sin (concupiscence, lust, burning with sɛҳuąƖ passion) is wrong.
    And that is precisely what marriage is a remedy for. As I have just demonstrated. Who exactly is the sneaky devil? You're done with me because you have no response to what I quoted. You are wrong 
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #276 on: November 03, 2025, 09:48:48 PM »
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    • And just to be a little more clear for you, marriage is a remedy for concupiscence (not a sin) and also a remedy for lust (a sin). No interchangeables here
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #277 on: November 04, 2025, 01:31:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 09:34:01 PM
    Trying to find the disconnect.... It just hit me...
    You went from talking about "man burning with lust" to concupiscence.  I assumed you were using the terms interchangeably, even though concupiscence is not a "man burning with lust".
    You sneaky devil.  I'm done with you.
    Ladislaus was right about the trolls on this forum. You accuse him of being a devil yet you say something good is a sin...
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #278 on: November 04, 2025, 03:31:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 03, 2025, 05:43:11 PM
    Such idiocy.

    The section you refer to in Corinthians does not mean for lustful men to marry.

    This is spoken of such as are free, and not of such as, by vow, have given their first faith to God; to whom if they will use proper means to obtain it, God will never refuse the gift of continency.

    I think the root of these idiotic takes like yours are

    1. A form of puritanical thinking, exhbited all over Tradition, especially seen among Americans. Groups like the TIA promote it.
    2. An effeminate cruelty, which shows a lack of understanding and compassion for the weakness of men in this regard.

    To show how hypocritical these idiots are, think about it this way. Imagine a woman crying because she can't have children, either already married, or is couldnt meet someone. Would you say something like "Get over yourself girl!" No! you would not and you would justly label someone who says that as cruel. This is the mentality of these creeps. (men and women)
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #279 on: November 04, 2025, 03:39:04 AM »
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    • oh and another thing to say to the ABSOLUTE MORONS on here trying to promote puritanism here.

    Its not about encouraging lustful men. Its about providing relief in an area which is difficult for many men, so they can focus their attention on other duties and be they want to be.

    As the remnant becomes smaller I see so many resistance families start to justify this nonsense to distract from the fact they have done nothing to help their daughters find husbands, or rather given them so much "advice" that they have turned them into fussy princesses. 

    Its really, really sad. Rest assured idiots, I will track you down and embarrass you. You are a scourge/cancer on the remnant, and most unhealthy.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #280 on: November 04, 2025, 03:40:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on November 04, 2025, 03:39:04 AM
     attention on other duties and be they want to be.


    *be the good husbands they want to be
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #281 on: Today at 07:48:50 AM »
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    • Why is it difficult for some men on here to comprehend the protectiveness parents have regarding their daughters (age 14 -17) from men “burning with lust” or struggling with concupiscence of the flesh?  Especially from men those men in their upper 30’s?  You seem to  be trying to change our minds with each new thread coming along.  I understand full well men and women are different in that regard.  You seem to be willing to educate the ladies and men who disagree with you on this but can’t you see the apprehension parents have knowing well that you are looking at our daughters in a way that they are not mature enough to handle?  The church does not encourage long engagements for a reason.  
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    « Reply #282 on: Today at 08:08:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 07:48:50 AM
    Why is it difficult for some men on here to comprehend the protectiveness parents have regarding their daughters (age 14 -17) from men “burning with lust” or struggling with concupiscence of the flesh?  Especially from men those men in their upper 30’s?  You seem to  be trying to change our minds with each new thread coming along.  I understand full well men and women are different in that regard.  You seem to be willing to educate the ladies and men who disagree with you on this but can’t you see the apprehension parents have knowing well that you are looking at our daughters in a way that they are not mature enough to handle?  The church does not encourage long engagements for a reason. 

    You're making the presumption that it is all about lust. 
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    « Reply #283 on: Today at 08:13:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 07:48:50 AM
    Why is it difficult for some men on here to comprehend the protectiveness parents have regarding their daughters (age 14 -17) from men “burning with lust” or struggling with concupiscence of the flesh?  Especially from men those men in their upper 30’s?  You seem to  be trying to change our minds with each new thread coming along.  I understand full well men and women are different in that regard.  You seem to be willing to educate the ladies and men who disagree with you on this but can’t you see the apprehension parents have knowing well that you are looking at our daughters in a way that they are not mature enough to handle?  The church does not encourage long engagements for a reason. 
    This is some dramatic stupidity.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #284 on: Today at 08:20:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 07:48:50 AM
    Why is it difficult for some men on here to comprehend the protectiveness parents have regarding their daughters (age 14 -17) from men “burning with lust” or struggling with concupiscence of the flesh?  Especially from men those men in their upper 30’s?  You seem to  be trying to change our minds with each new thread coming along.  I understand full well men and women are different in that regard.  You seem to be willing to educate the ladies and men who disagree with you on this but can’t you see the apprehension parents have knowing well that you are looking at our daughters in a way that they are not mature enough to handle?  The church does not encourage long engagements for a reason. 
    "Oh no these older established men want to get married and have children with my darling daughter, oh the depravity, oh the lustfully misogynistic old unattractive men, if only I raised my daughters better their mind's would be as mature as their bodies"

    Why do you assume this is about lust and not fertility and basic attraction?
    Why don't parents understand that their children will eventually need to leave the nest and get married?
    Do you even realise that this problem will also effect your own sons as they grow and struggle to buy a house and provide for a family?
    What will you say then to them?
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