This isn't the same thing at all. A woman's fertility get destroyed by age, a man's does not. A man also needs to be able to provide for a family, the woman just needs to be obedient to her husband.

Feminists don't really believe in facts so you are wasting your time.

Firstly, sugar is bad for you.

What do you consider an age gap?
How much is too much?
Are you male or female?
Roughly how old are you?

Personally I think mainly older women get upset with age gaps because their 'clock' is ticking. While some younger men get upset because they can't compete.

I consider an age gap to be 5+ years
No age gap is too much as the purpose of married is to have children. So it's not about the age gap but fertility.
I am me.
In my 20s.

I keep seeing age gaps demonised online yet the same people have no issue with Elvis Presley and Priscilla Beaulieu having a 10 yr gap (14 and 24) because Elvis 'respected' her and she didn't want sex before marriage so he wasn't a 'groomer'. Yet some members of this forum have vilified men for wanting something similar (or rather something more Holy). So are these secular people more rational than some trad Catholics? Or are they just making an exception because of their personal like of Elvis since he was rich, tall, handsome and famous?

Also on the wedding day they are called the Bride and Brides-GROOM, so why is the term 'groomer' used as an attack? Seems like a hidden attack on marriage if you ask me.

"Let thy vein be blessed, and rejoice with the wife of thy youth." - proverbs 5:18

In other words, if you're going to marry, then marry when you're young.  Since there are laws in this country prohibiting marriage under age 18 without parental approval, and since most men aren't attracted to much older women, your wife will be around your age.

Remember, however, that giving ones virginity to God is a much higher calling than the married life.

It's not the ideal though.

The Holy Family is

Please explain

Please explain

I second this.

I think he means that the ideal marriage is the Holy Family which had a large age gap.


Blessed Virgin Mary at her youngest would have been 12, and 15 at her oldest.

Saint Joseph at his youngest would have been 30, and his older we don't know, but different Saints have said 48 or 60+.

So we can see the smallest possible age gap between them was 15 years. So really Catholics should not have any issue with marriage between teenage girls and men in their 30s.

Functionally it makes sense. A man needs time to work on himself so he can provide for his family. A house, food and other resources. This also ensures his wife can stay at home and do her duties and the children can be homeschooled. The man having age and experience in life will also make him mature allowing him to be a better father and husband.

The women being young will be produce more healthy offspring and will have more energy to take care of them properly, and this will give her experience so it gets easier as she ages. Having children early also prolongs her fertility and gives her numerous health benefits due to cell exchange when pregnant. Also the woman being young also stops her from destroying herself by not making bad irrational decisions, such poor decisions can really make or break a marriage.

This is not a new idea, Aristotle said the ideal age for marriage was ~18 and ~37 respectively. For similar reasons to above. And he didn't have "science" to tell him these things, just wisdom and knowledge from history.

Unfortunately the modern world heavily stigmatised age gaps, especially if the women is in her teens. This is simply due to Jєωιѕн/masonic (feminism) influence.

Also to add the modern world through propaganda puts "feelings" as the most important thing to look for in a 'partner'. This is terrible as feelings don't always last and really indicate infatuation and not real love. This is a trick by the enemy, that it's not live if you don't "feel" anything. These feelings are actually just physical attraction, which is an important thing to consider but not the only thing nor the most important.

Couldn't agree more. 

The boomer generation of men, including trad fathers, have not really taught their daughters this. That marriage is principally about children. It needs to said explicitly to women, because they are weak creatures. Especially the young.

They are not going to pick it up by osmosis as the boomer dads think they are. They pick up the opposite by osmosis actually, especially if they were sent to a school of Dominican Sisters. 

Feminism needs absolutely to be nipped in the bud right when the girl turns of age (12-14). And the Father is the only one who has the strength to do it. And the precursor of feminism is sentimentality. 

This is presented here as factual but is actually not factual.  I would stick with Proberbs rather than speculation.


https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/old-joseph-young-joseph

This is garbage. It conflates a lot of things together that shouldn't be together, and also novus ordo modernist sheen vatican 2 rubbish.

The fact is St Joseph dies before our Lords ministry. I doubt he died under the age of 60.

This is garbage. It conflates a lot of things together that shouldn't be together, and also novus ordo modernist sheen vatican 2 rubbish.

The fact is St Joseph dies before our Lords ministry. I doubt he died under the age of 60.

I thought it was a good explanation for those who don't know that we actually don't know much about St. Joseph.

Sure, St. Joseph died before Our Lord's ministry, but we don't know at what age he died.

Speculation is best kept to a minimum. 

This is presented here as factual but is actually not factual.  I would stick with Proberbs rather than speculation.

Good explanation here:

Was St. Joseph an old man or a young man when Jesus was born?
Scripture does not tell us explicitly, and there’s no consensus within Catholic art or theology on the matter. Our own assumptions about Joseph’s age might depend on which art we’ve happened to see. For instance, Caravaggio’s Rest on the Flight into Egypt depicts Joseph as an old man, with gray hair and a gray beard, alongside a young Mary, nursing the Christ Child. But El Greco’s St. Joseph and the Christ Child, painted only a few years later, depicts Joseph as a much younger man. Why the discrepancy?

These days, the “old Joseph” camp is largely associated with the Eastern half of the Church and with Eastern Orthodoxy. Why might a person believe that St. Joseph was an older man? Usually, the people holding to this view believe that Joseph was a widower, and that the “brothers” of Jesus mentioned in the Bible were Joseph’s children from a previous marriage. St. Epiphanius, for instance, argued that St. James “was Joseph’s son by Joseph’s first wife, not by Mary.” Additionally, those who hold the “old Joseph” view point out that Joseph appears to have died some time between Jesus’ thirteenth year and his public ministry: the last we hear of him is after the finding of Jesus in the Temple (Luke 2:41:51).
A major reason for this view’s popularity in the East is the influence of a popular second-century text called the Protoevangelium of James, falsely claimed to be written by the Apostle James. In the Protoevangelium’s account, after the Virgin Mary turned twelve, heralds went out to all of Judaea to find widowers who could marry her to protect her and preserve her pledged virginity. The widowers, each carrying rods, came before the high priest, and a dove flew out of Joseph’s rod, signifying God’s choice. Joseph initially refused, saying, “I have children, and I am an old man, and she is a young girl. I am afraid lest I become a laughing-stock to the sons of Israel.” Joseph remains ashamed of this age difference and considers claiming Mary as his daughter (rather than his wife) in responding to the census. Even after the birth of Jesus, he insists that while they are betrothed, Mary is not really his wife, since her child is of the Holy Spirit.
A later (perhaps sixth-century) Egyptian text called The History of Joseph the Carpenter went farther, claiming that Joseph lived to be 111 and presenting Jesus as saying Joseph “lived forty years unmarried; thereafter his wife remained under his care forty-nine years, and then died. And a year after her death, my mother, the blessed Mary, was entrusted to him by the priests, that he should keep her until the time of her marriage.” By that telling, Joseph was already in his nineties by the time Jesus was born.
The Protoevangelium is from the East (perhaps Syria), and its stories became popular in both East and West, but Western theologians tended not to take its accounts seriously. The book was among those condemned by Pope Innocent I in 405, and again by the “Decretum Gelasianum.” Nevertheless, stories from the Protoevangelium crept into the Western medieval imagination via yet another false Gospel, a seventh-century text called The Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew, which implausibly claimed both to have been written in Hebrew by the apostle and translated into Latin by St. Jerome. This text borrows heavily from the Protoevangelium and presents Joseph as saying Mary is younger than his grandchildren.
Even while theologians (including the pope) criticized the texts as unreliable, their stories nevertheless captured the public’s imagination, an influence that can be seen on centuries’ worth of art (primarily paintings, but also medieval dramas and even songs, like “The Cherry-Tree Carol”) throughout the Church.
What caused Western theologians to reject this view of St. Joseph in favor of a younger Joseph? Partially, the influence of St. Jerome, who argued that the “brothers” of Jesus were more likely first cousins (Aramaic uses “brothers” as a kind of familial catch-all). Two of the “brothers” St. Mark mentions, James and Joses (6:3), he later describes as the sons of another Mary (15:40,47)—likely, Mary, the wife of Clopas (John 19:25; Luke 24:18). Thus, they do seem to be not Joseph’s sons from a previous marriage, but the sons of Mary and Clopas (who tradition holds was Joseph’s brother).
Jerome’s view eliminates the need to believe that Joseph was a widower, but it doesn’t automatically mean that Joseph was a young man. For that, we should look to the influence of theologians like Jean Gerson (1363-1429), chancellor of the prestigious University of Paris, who used sermons, theological treatises, and even poetry to argue that St. Joseph was being overlooked and misunderstood. Was it really likely that the man who fled with his family into Egypt in the middle of the night was a nonagenarian? And if he did have kids from a previous marriage, where were they during the events of the first Christmas?
More important was the implicit view of chastity. As Ven. Fulton Sheen would later observe, many of the popular “old Joseph” depictions “unconsciously made Joseph a spouse chaste and pure by age rather than virtue.” Sheen argued that Joseph “was probably a young man, strong, virile, athletic, handsome, chaste, and disciplined,” the kind of man one sees sometimes “working at a carpenter’s bench. Instead of being a man incapable of love, he must have been on fire with love.” St. Josemaría Escrivá, founder of Opus Dei, agreed: “I see him as a strong young man, perhaps a few years older than our Lady, but in the prime of his life and work.” Whatever his age, Joseph was of working age recently enough for the townspeople to describe the adult Jesus as “the carpenter’s son” (Matt. 13:55), and as Pope Francis points out, it was from St. Joseph that Jesus learned “the value, the dignity and the joy of what it means to eat bread that is the fruit of one’s own labor.”
A via media is possible. Recent historical scholarship, looking at rabbinical sources (telling people how they should conduct marriage) and the handful of ancient Jєωιѕн marriage docuмents (showing how they actually did) has given us greater insight into the marrying age of first-century Jews. Michael L. Satlow, professor of religious studies and Judaic studies at Brown University, summarizes by saying Jєωιѕн men in first-century Palestine may have married around thirty, with Jєωιѕн women marrying in their mid- to late-teens. The evidence is far from conclusive, and there’s nothing preventing Joseph from marrying earlier or later than average (particularly if he was remarrying), but it paints a different portrait of Joseph from a man either 90 years old or only a few years older than Mary. Such a man would likely have been strong enough to work as a carpenter and transport his family from Nazareth to Bethlehem to Egypt, but he would also be more likely to predecease his young wife, and it would be hardly surprising for him not to live to see his son’s adult ministry.
As you can see, great theologians and even great saints are divided on the question of the age difference between Joseph and Mary. But where we are all united is in our being under Joseph’s fatherly protection, and our need for his intercession. St. Joseph, pray for us!

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/old-joseph-young-joseph

Please do not open your mouth on this issue until you have done some serious reading on the subject and stop quoting dubious sources like Fulton Sheen and Escriva and post Vatican II opinions.


Did you not read the article posted only a few days ago on the subject? https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/the-age-of-st-joseph/