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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #720 on: Today at 12:28:39 PM »
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  • The Catholic answer is very simple and laid out throughout its history. Since Americanism we have the average 2.5 kids where as in tradition we had 10-12 my grandmother came from a house of 18 kids. They all lived good productive lives and were all raised by their mother because great great gramps hit the bottle a lot and she used to have to embarrass him and drag him out of the bar before the money was gone more than once haha. But when you get your brief respite from raising those kids the kids start having kids and your running around helping them all out. You can’t have an opinion and the man in good faith can take your advice but the ultimate decision is to go unquestioned. The man is the head. As for forums like these, this is all new. Men and women never interacted like this through all of history. Ultimately everyone makes their own decisions in a forum and no one has authority online. In person if some crazy man and you get into an argument………. The man will have the ultimate decision for sake of his anatomy if he’s right or wrong. That’s basic nature.
    Did you me a women can have an opinion?

    I agree with what you say for the most part.  I just think women have a reach other than just their biological family and by saying there reach is only with their biological family it is missing what women are capable of with the proper perspective. Unfortunately the way 2025 society is we have to focus more on our Catholic spiritual family than just the biological one.  I know we are all new at this, but if we start looking at the good we can do in our little sphere of influence, then God might smile on us and cause the little spark of charity and Truth turn into a wildfire of conversions.  Maybe I am just too hopeful for the awful world we live in.  :cowboy:  Nothing is impossible with God.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #721 on: Today at 12:35:17 PM »
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  • You're a wife.  Your job is in the home.  Your focus is your family.  When your children move out, your focus is your husband.  Do what he wants to do.  Support him. 

    Why do you feel the need to evangelize or discuss theology online?  How do you not have more to do at home?
    Because I have all men in my household and at 13 they do not need a helicopter mom. My husband does not want me to be a slave to the material world.  He wants me to be there for others in need.  I am just a feminine voice in the mix, I do not expect nor want men to follow my lead.  Again if you really think my husband is not doing the correct thing then you need to take it up with him.
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #722 on: Today at 01:09:14 PM »
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  • The church has talked about personality types one leans toward.

    Sanguine
    Melancholic
    Phlegmatic
    Choleric

    It kind of helps to know when looking at predominant faults for people to overcome.

    Yes I am a women, I probably should have stayed silent, but I am Meloncholic and don't like misinformation or misunderstandings.  So here we are.  :cowboy:
    There is no official Catholic doctrine on these categories and my point is they can not be used to justify disobedience. Women use these categories to put men in boxes and say “ oh well he is phlegmatic and I’m choleric so he does not mind me making the decisions for the family.” If the husband chooses to allow that he is not fulfilling his role as the leader. And who is qualified to make these assessments? For this archaic philosophy?  Ultimately the man chooses and that is Catholic doctrine so it’s time for men to man up and woman to lady down. It’s been the other way around for too long. It’s not working! Birth rates are plumeting, divorce rates are skyrocketing, and happiness in marriages is at an all time low! 

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #723 on: Today at 01:29:22 PM »
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  • But the women don't like being blamed for something they didn't do.  You want good holy women, then you need to lift up those women who give a good example and ignore the women who give a bad example.  Giving attention to women reinforces whatever direction they lean towards.
    I didnt ask for your opinion on my life. 

    Women are given a pass in some ways by good men because they are weak.

    When a man acts weak we must be tougher on him, because its less acceptable. 

    So focus on that point rather than trying to make it personal. That's a perverse mentality.

    I understand your feminine need to make things relatable. But it's not welcome in this case. You're not my mother.

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • I didnt ask for your opinion on my life.

    Women are given a pass in some ways by good men because they are weak.

    When a man acts weak we must be tougher on him, because its less acceptable.

    So focus on that point rather than trying to make it personal. That's a perverse mentality.

    I understand your feminine need to make things relatable. But it's not welcome in this case. You're not my mother.
    ok sorry I see you were talking about women generally. I can't delete the post on the anonymous forum. 

    So the response is slightly different. 
    Weakness is associated with women. The essential point is that this person was acting like a woman. In the bad sense. When a woman acts weak it is still bad, but more understandable. So it is also understandable that this person be mistaken for a woman.

    Because that post was EXTREMELY effeminate.

    I think you should reflect on the point being made still. The mistaking that person for a woman is not the essential thing here.


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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #725 on: Today at 01:44:32 PM »
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  • Yes.  And just to define what is an acceptable age-gap, I think the male, ((( half your age + 7 ))) rule is pretty spot on.

    Male 20:: youngest age of woman 17
    Male 24:: youngest age of woman 19
    Male 26:: youngest age of woman 20
    Male 30:: youngest age of woman 22
    Male 34:: youngest age of woman 24
    Male 40:: youngest age of woman 27
    Male 44:: youngest age of woman 29

    I'm not saying an age-gap is preferable, or ideal.  Just saying there's nothing wrong with it.  I don't understand why anyone would be opposed, other than superficiality.


    Two points where we will differ then.

    I do think age gap is the ideal. Because holiness is the highest purpose of marriage. The wiser the man is the more he is able to lead. And the Holy Family is the family of families.


    And I don't think we should put numbers on it like that.  I'm not saying that because I am secretly a 90 year old who wants a 15 year old teenager, or anything like that. I know some will think they're so smart by thinking that. I am saying because its really meaningless. People will marry based on a wide combination of factors, often simple convenience being one. Picking numbers like that is fun to do in abstract, but has no bearing in real life. 

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • Did you me a women can have an opinion?

    I agree with what you say for the most part.  I just think women have a reach other than just their biological family and by saying there reach is only with their biological family it is missing what women are capable of with the proper perspective. Unfortunately the way 2025 society is we have to focus more on our Catholic spiritual family than just the biological one.  I know we are all new at this, but if we start looking at the good we can do in our little sphere of influence, then God might smile on us and cause the little spark of charity and Truth turn into a wildfire of conversions.  Maybe I am just too hopeful for the awful world we live in.  :cowboy:  Nothing is impossible with God.
    “ can” spell check hates me. 

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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • I didnt ask for your opinion on my life.

    Women are given a pass in some ways by good men because they are weak.

    When a man acts weak we must be tougher on him, because its less acceptable.

    So focus on that point rather than trying to make it personal. That's a perverse mentality.

    I understand your feminine need to make things relatable. But it's not welcome in this case. You're not my mother.
    Did you forget you are on the Anonymous forum?  My response was not personal, because I have no idea who you are. 
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
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  • There is no official Catholic doctrine on these categories and my point is they can not be used to justify disobedience. Women use these categories to put men in boxes and say “ oh well he is phlegmatic and I’m choleric so he does not mind me making the decisions for the family.” If the husband chooses to allow that he is not fulfilling his role as the leader. And who is qualified to make these assessments? For this archaic philosophy?  Ultimately the man chooses and that is Catholic doctrine so it’s time for men to man up and woman to lady down. It’s been the other way around for too long. It’s not working! Birth rates are plumeting, divorce rates are skyrocketing, and happiness in marriages is at an all time low!
    You are right nothing should be used to justify disobedience.  What is obedience anyway?  The women need to obey the men and who do the men need to obey?  Trump?  Their boss? Pope Leo XIV?  Bishop Sanborn? Bishop Zendejas? Their parents? 
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    Re: Let's talk about age gaps
    « Reply #729 on: Today at 03:31:42 PM »
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  • ok sorry I see you were talking about women generally. I can't delete the post on the anonymous forum.

    So the response is slightly different.
    Weakness is associated with women. The essential point is that this person was acting like a woman. In the bad sense. When a woman acts weak it is still bad, but more understandable. So it is also understandable that this person be mistaken for a woman.

    Because that post was EXTREMELY effeminate.

    I think you should reflect on the point being made still. The mistaking that person for a woman is not the essential thing here.
    I am sorry I responded before I saw this post.  I guess that makes sense, but can we just call something effeminate rather than place an actual gender to it?

    I am just a little sensitive.  :jester:
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