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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #675 on: November 30, 2025, 09:45:06 AM »
My Grandma, after marrying her highschool sweetheart at the age of 17 (he was a few years older), lost her husband in her twenties and was left with 4 kids.
She ended up marrying a man 30 years her elder. They lived many happy years together. At the time she faced a lot of backlash for it and even got disowned by some family members. She was the talk of the town- most everyone thought she was a gold digger, but she really did love him and they shared a great deal of things in common.

3 years after my grandma’s first husband died, she came to know my grandpa. He and his wife lived next door. About a year after his wife died of cancer, my grandpa had seen her struggling to fix something on her house so being a good neighbor, he came over to help his widowed neighbor accomplish a task that she was really missing her husband for. She did not have any money to offer him so she invited him over for Sunday dinner. From then on he was always there to fix things for her and she always invited him to Sunday dinner. They got to know each other during that time and she grew to love him for his kindness toward her and for the stability he offered her and her children in her vulnerable state. He grew to love her for her gentle kindness and hospitality toward him during such a lonely time so they married.

After many good years he died. My poor grandma has been alone for a little over 20 years now.  My grandma and I are very close. We confide in each other often. She has told me that despite the bitter sting of loneliness, she wouldn’t have done it differently. She loved both of her husbands very much, in different ways.

Her story is different, obviously. She married young to a young husband before marrying a man with a large age gap. I’m just relating the story to MichaelKnoxville because you never know what might come along even if you consider yourself over the hill!
I’ve heard there is an epidemic of single mothers “hitting the wall” they say the wall is undefeated. Of course a widow is a totally different circuмstance and most aren’t like our Lady 😄 but I think these guys got an entirely different thing on their minds. 


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7IrPVLc4U&pp=ygURaGV5IDE5IHN0ZWVseSBkYW4%3D


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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #676 on: November 30, 2025, 10:30:48 AM »
This is just my own, hopefully pious opinion, and which is based on several books I've read:

St. Joseph was young but not tender in age. Most likely around thirty.

There was a strong family resemblance between Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, as they actually are blood relations.

Joseph and Jesus resembled one another for mystical reasons (as well as practical): Joseph was the image and likeness of the Father; and the Eternal Word is also the image and likeness of the Father; therefore they were in relation to each other as the Father and the Word are in a relation.

Christian art makes abundant use of symbolism. The "old Joseph trope" is a symbol of the chaste marriage which forms the bedrock of the Holy Family. It is figurative.

A young, beautiful, yet chaste Joseph is prefigured in the Book of Genesis.

Gen 49:22: Joseph is a growing son, a growing son and comely to behold.

Gen 39:6-10: Joseph was of a beautiful countenance, and comely to behold. And after many days his mistress cast her eyes on Joseph, and said: Lie with me. But he, in no wise consenting to that wicked act, said to her: Behold, my master hath delivered all things to me, and knoweth not what he hath in his own house: Neither is there any thing which is not in my power, or that he hath not delivered to me, but thee, who art his wife: how then can I do this wicked thing, and sin against my God? With such words as these day by day, both the woman was importunate with the young man, and he refused the adultery.

This shows forth clearly that Joseph, in the strength of his youthful virility and beauty, received into his care and possession the two most precious Persons on earth - the Son of the Father and the Spouse of the Holy Ghost. And further, that this entrustment is founded upon absolute purity of body, mind, and heart..

Hath God no power to quiet the flesh in a beautiful and vibrant man? If there is no such power in God, then the 6th and 9th Commandments are impossible to obey (except when you're old); and the celibate priesthood is as impossible as the enemies of the Church declare.

The gap between our Lady and St. Joseph was fifteen years. Let us keep in mind that our Lady was not intended by God to bring forth many children. Her Childbearing was perfected in one Conception. Why did God arrange Her marriage when She was still so young? I think it had to do with custom in Israel. Perhaps fifteen represents a kind of perfection in a woman. We know that thirty represents perfection in a man. I would surmise that Mary and Joseph were intended to be married at the time of the perfection of their earthly ages. They embarked upon their mission from God at the perfect ages of fifteen and thirty. Our Lord embarked upon His public ministry at the age of 30 - His perfect age.

Thus, though Mary and Joseph be indeed our models for family life, their "age gap" points to mystical realities.

Modern women are violently and hatefully trashed because they lose their virginity, get passed around by men, and incapacitate themselves for marriage.

What about porn addled men? No one ever speaks about the pollution of their bodies, minds, and souls after years of being enslaved to that habit.

Both men AND women become incapacitated for marriage by living lives of sɛҳuąƖ impurity. 
 


This issue was discussed long ago, long before Fulton Sheen and Escriva.


https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/the-age-of-st-joseph/msg1007393/#msg1007393


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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #677 on: November 30, 2025, 10:32:49 AM »
I don't disagree with the logic, but you are dealing with 2025 women and girls and it is not fair to expect them to suddenly accept an ideology that is extremely foreign.  The point is this topic can't be forced and the men keep calling the women feminists, which shuts down the conversation. If you want a respectful conversation, you need to model respect.  This is why the men need to hash it out in the men's forum and then husbands can have a real conversation with their wives  If you want order, practice order. 


This is one of the classic errors of modernism.
That we must "move with the times."

The Church creates and builds civilization. Not feminists on cathinfo.

We men are explaining the truth to you. Its up to you to humbly accept it, or fight it.

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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #678 on: November 30, 2025, 10:39:50 AM »
:facepalm: a 10 yr old will be 15 in 5 years, while a 30 yr old will be 35. It's called potential. Faces always have this aesthetics, you can tell who has a nice face or who has not in a single glance.

Rather than play on your feminist word games I will just tell you how it is. It's far more rational to wait to marry a younger lady than to risk marrying an older lady. Unless you don't actually want many children or you are very wealthy and prefer less offspring as to not split your wealth among many.

Maybe the word 'attractive' is where you are tripped up, the word 'appeal' may make more sense to you. This is basic logic not sɛҳuąƖ desire.
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A 10 yr old will be 15 in 5 years, while a 30 yr old will be 35. It's called potential. Faces always have this aesthetics, you can tell who has a nice face or who has not in a single glance.
**Yes, and five years is a long time for a child to develop, learn and gain experiences while a 30 year old has already matured and is now aging (but still gaining experiences). 
  Are you looking at 10 year old children to determine if they will be a potential spouse for you in the future based on aesthetics?

Rather than play on your feminist word games I will just tell you how it is.
Words are important because they convey information. Words also change meanings over the ages. Instead of becoming defensive, look at this logically. You seem to be upset when your logic is challenged but if the reader of the post understands the word and definition differently from how you use it/intended then there is a problem. The word “attractive” doesn’t require the adjective “sɛҳuąƖly” as it has its own meaning.
For reference, this the definition (definition one) I used when I read your post: https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/attractive
“Having the quality of attracting; drawing to; as the attractive force of bodies.”
With that definition in mind, read this statement, “10-12 yr olds are more attractive THAN 30+ YEAR OLDS.”
It's far more rational to wait to marry a younger lady than to risk marrying an older lady. Unless you don't actually want many children or you are very wealthy and prefer less offspring as to not split your wealth among many.
** Just to confirm: the “risk” you mention refers to wanting a large number of children and believing that a younger woman provides more potential for childbearing. Is that correct?
How many children is too little or too much? I have a relative who married at 27 and there are 13 children and I have another relative who married at 20 and he and his wife were unable to conceive.  

Maybe the word 'attractive' is where you are tripped up, the word 'appeal' may make more sense to you. This is basic logic not sɛҳuąƖ desire.
Words don’t “trip me up”, rather, the incorrect use of them (or was it correct- you will need to confirm).
What definition are you using for the word appeal?



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Re: Let's talk about age gaps
« Reply #679 on: November 30, 2025, 10:40:27 AM »
I have to throw in my two cents for what it’s worth. Just 200 years ago and less kids used to be married at 15 and already know how to run a home, build a home, and start a life together. No we watch kids that age break eachothers hearts and run around like crazy with multiple partners and out of wedlock pregnancies. Now it is acceptable to be considered a child into your 30s living in mas basement. I don’t think it’s possible for kids to remain celibate especially if they are going to college and have to remain like that until they are well into their 20s it’s just not natural and makes for low reproduction rates and high abortion rates. At 40 years old I have absolutely nothing in common with 20 year old women so I’m not sure what the fantasy is of courting one. That’s not very natural either but in order to get kids 14-16 to straighten out when it comes to relationships I don’t see any other way than raising them right and marrying them off young. I think that would greatly benefit the society and stop a lot of heart brake and bad consequences that we see today in the man woman divide. At 40 if your still single and childless like me it’s a tragedy! My parents low key hate me for it. Unless your celibate for religious reasons, your a saint or priest, it’s not natural or even healthy to be alone! Ask me how I know 🤣 it’s just depressing, lonely, and your asking to be a cat lady or a dog daddy. This is not good! The only way I see to correct is to go back to the way it’s been done 1000s of years and get these kids family oriented by just a few short years into puberty. If your still single and looking for one of these young girls by the time your in your late 20s and 30s there is something wrong with you because you should have been married by then anyway!


My brother, I have been reading your posts and its clear you are depressed. I'm sorry for this.

But it does not mean the rest of us men have to listen to you when you talk like this. As someone who has suffered from (mild) depression in my past, I can say it is possible to get over it and be happy, but you have to take measures. You certainly are doing some of this by reaching out on cathinfo. Good for you.

And you made initially some good points there in your post. 

But it's just so silly to think that you cannot or should not get a woman. You absolutely have a lot of time and can pretty easily get women in their late twenties and thirties. An 18 year old might be harder, but go for it if you can. 

It's also equally absurd to try to tear other men down for trying to get a woman who is younger.


It is totally natural for a man even and old man to be attracted to a fertile woman. What you may need to do before you get one is work on your career a bit or maybe exercise or whatever, but that may not take long.