There seem to be some here who cite obscure cases with no clear references, making sure to use untranslated Latin to make themselves seem clever, which essentially make the cult favouring claim that essentially reads the mind of bishops some trads don't like, and finds their intention wanting. It comes from the same stable as those who invented non una cuм, a horrifying error refuted by looking at an older missal where after the Pope and bishop, the monarch (who was often or always non Catholic, barring one or two deathbed conversions like Charles II). Obviously the ultimate point is that any one who goes to a chapel other than that of the cult leader or similar, goes to hell. The Plinioites who hate Archbishop Lefebvre do the same thing even though they usually go, at best, to diocesan TLM masses, like Attila Sinke Guimares who has such delusions that +Lefebvre had a personal masonic brass band, that +Lienart was obviously a freemason, and other delusions which suggest there is something in the water in Brazil. Who is +Lefebvre compared to holy Plinio de Correa?