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« on: July 07, 2013, 06:02:21 PM »
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  • Are there any opinions out there regarding the permissibility or impermissibility of consuming kosher foods?  I have always been suspicious of them and have avoided them on the grounds that they might be cursed due to being "blessed" by rabbis.  On the other hand, unless somebody only eats at his own home, kosher foods seem inescapable.  Are these foods not then consecrated to the idolatry of the Jєωs? Is this an unreasonable concern?


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    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 06:09:28 PM »
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  • I guess halal food would be in the same category.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 06:22:20 PM »
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  • Do kosher dill pickles count? I won't give up my kosher dills! That just wouldn't be kosher! :smirk:

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    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 06:26:30 PM »
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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't kosher certification just mean that the food is guaranteed not to violate any Jєωιѕн dietary laws?  I don't think there's any "blessing" put on any of it.  Not that I'm thrilled about having a rabbi inspect my food ahead of time.

    Of course if it turns out to be an issue, this would just be another reason to avoid processed foods.

    Halal meats, on the other hand, are "blessed."  I wouldn't go near them.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 07:24:47 PM »
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  •  :ready-to-eat:It is perfectly fine to eat kosher foods.  What it means is that they meet Jєωιѕн dietary laws-not solely limited to those described in the Scripture, but vastly expanded as in the тαℓмυd.  They are INSPECTED as to method of slaughter, the preparatory and packing method and environment and cleanliness of facility.  They are "blessed" or even touched by a rabbi.  Whether a food is kosher is irrelevant for Catholics.  I know this because I've done extensive research among the ultra-Orthodox, "hasidic" Jєωs of Brooklyn.

     :barf:Halal food is another story entirely!  Catholics should not eat any halal meat product, as the animal is dedicated to "allah" before it is slaughtered.  Dairy and plant foods fall into the "dubious" category.  They are similar to kosher in that there is no blessing or prayer over them. Unlike kosher foods,  they must be produced or raised in a Muslim-owned or connected facility.  The Jєωs merely inspect the facility or farm which is, in fact, often owned by a Gentile.  If no other food is available, a Catholic may eat all but the meat.  For example, a relative of mine visited in-laws in a Muslim country where all the food was halal.  He became a vegetarian for two weeks!  Normally, Catholics should veto all food labeled halal.  

     :ready-to-eat:But if you like kosher pickles, gefilte fish, matzos, pastrami on rye, NY bagels and lox, go ahead and enjoy!  You can even mix the meat and dairy without risking your soul!

     :confused1:If you are still doubtful, then follow St. Paul's advice to the Roman Catholics, Romans, ch. 14, and eat neither.  
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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 07:28:56 PM »
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  • Too late to edit!  Kosher foods are NOT blessed or prayed over.  This is not a Freudian slip.  I don't believe in Sigmond's religion, psychoanalysis!
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    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 08:24:19 PM »
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  •  :ready-to-eat:Back again!  Our Lord said that which goes into a man does not defile him; it is that which comes out that is sinful.  Check St. Matthew, ch. 15.

    p.s.  I guarantee every Catholic on CI has at least a half-dozen kosher products in his home and doesn't know it!
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    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 09:09:45 PM »
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  • If you are Catholic and in the US, you have little choice but to eat it.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 09:19:02 PM »
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  • Everything goes better with bacon!

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    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 09:21:07 PM »
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  • Frances back again!  Oy veh!  Not true!  One CAN avoid kosher food and other products if you know what to look for on the labels.  Soaps, cosmetics, medicines, even fabrics can be kosher.  Anything that comes in contact with the body.  One point in the Jєωs' favor; there are no kosher forms of contraception.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 10:42:50 PM »
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  • Eat what you want if it tastes good.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 01:35:48 AM »
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     :barf:Halal food is another story entirely!  Catholics should not eat any halal meat product, as the animal is dedicated to "allah" before it is slaughtered.  Dairy and plant foods fall into the "dubious" category.  They are similar to kosher in that there is no blessing or prayer over them. Unlike kosher foods,  they must be produced or raised in a Muslim-owned or connected facility.  The Jєωs merely inspect the facility or farm which is, in fact, often owned by a Gentile.  If no other food is available, a Catholic may eat all but the meat.  For example, a relative of mine visited in-laws in a Muslim country where all the food was halal.  He became a vegetarian for two weeks!  Normally, Catholics should veto all food labeled halal.  


    What is the moral principle behind this bad advice?

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    Do kosher dill pickles count? I won't give up my kosher dills! That just wouldn't be kosher! :smirk:


    No. They are called that because of the style of pickle, not because it is actually kosher.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 02:56:59 AM »
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    « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 07:01:24 AM »
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  • That would preclude anyone in the UK eating commercial meat of any kind since they are all Halal and Kosher certified.  Check any commercial meat packaging and you will see this.

    In fact, there was something of an outcry against this practice, since non Muslim/Jєωs are in effect subsidizing the certification process of some Imman or Rabbi coming to the meat processing plant and checking the process.  The plant pay a few thousand for that certification.

    But it died on the vine when people realise it only accounted for pennies every year compared to their total spend on meat.

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