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Just not right........
« on: November 13, 2023, 12:50:34 AM »
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  • “Pit of filth and gutter of sewage?”  
    How is this imitating the wonderful example of Archbishop Lefebvre?
    18:16
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=yL1PjsfB_Kc&si=RrmzbwnGpZCceg-A

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2023, 08:14:50 AM »
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    “Pit of filth and gutter of sewage?”
    How is this imitating the wonderful example of Archbishop Lefebvre?
    18:16
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=yL1PjsfB_Kc&si=RrmzbwnGpZCceg-A

    He's calling CathInfo that. You didn't mention that.

    He's lying. There's no other way to say it. This FORMERLY good priest has fallen into slander against hundreds of good Catholics, calling them ALL evil.

    He didn't say Matthew, he said CathInfo. There's a difference. As I've said many times before, CathInfo isn't Matthew's Blog, although I use it as a soapbox exactly like a blogger would use his blog as a platform. EXCEPT I'm only one voice of many here. My "soapbox" posts are competing with, and often drowned out by, the dozens of other active daily posters on this forum, because, again, it's not just about me. It's not my personal blog.

    Here's an interesting tidbit -- Fr. Hewko came to my property to say Mass, twice, back in 2013 and never said the slightest thing critical to me. It wasn't even tense. We were all happy to be there. But let's assume for the sake of argument the "evils" of CathInfo didn't surface until later. Fr. Hewko still hasn't said anything to me personally, the OWNER of said forum, whether by phone, letter, email, text, or any other means. Why is he neglecting to confront the "evil" head on? Is it because he knows it's a false charge? That he has nothing?

    Reminds me of the accordistas and sheep who supported the neo-SSPX in their new direction, who wrote a secret letter to Fr. Rostand back in 2012 complaining about me and my wife holding volunteer positions at St. Joseph's Chapel in San Antonio. They lied about us (I could go into details). To this day I don't know who the 8 signatures were. Not a single one of them said anything to my face. That speaks volumes. What an un-manly, dishonorable, cowardly way to act. And I bet plenty of them were "men". You'd think an honest Catholic would be straight about it, you know, say something to my face. But no. They know they're slandering me, so they don't bother. It's all a game to them.

    Likewise Fr. Hewko (and Fr. Pfeiffer for that matter) only preaches his propaganda to his cult members, to make sure they don't visit the largest Traditional Catholic forum with a wide variety of Catholics, who MIGHT inject some objectivity and COULD break the cult's spell or hold on their minds.
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2023, 08:26:29 AM »
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  • I'm surprised Fr Hewko and his flock even know what the internet is since none of them go near it.

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2023, 08:50:54 AM »
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  • “Pit of filth and gutter of sewage?” 

    I should think that this description is more apt for Pfeifferville than it is for CI.  Yes, we sometimes lose our cools and aren't always perfectly charitable, and we could try to do better there, but I suspect that we would not be called this if we were 100% supportive of Father Hewko and attacking his opponents.

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2023, 10:12:02 AM »
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  • A couple of thoughts come to mind:
    1. Why is Fr. Hewko spending his time looking at a "pit of filth and gutter of sewage"?
    2. Smile, Matthew, 'cause, as P.T. Barnum said, "there's no such thing as bad publicity"!
    If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2023, 10:30:05 AM »
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  • I wouldn't be surprised if those cult members were told to avoid the Internet -- how else do you keep and possess their minds, as a cult leader must?

    Cults were much easier before the Internet. Just look at how Globe Earth and NASA's deception is falling apart. The Internet can be an invaluable resource against widespread, powerful Media/corporate/academic/government deception.

    IMAGINE thinking of "the Internet" or "online Catholic forums" the way most CI members think about "p0rnhub" or similar p0rn sites.

    Talk about cult brainwashing...
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #6 on: November 13, 2023, 11:03:07 AM »
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  • He's supposed to be one of the last faithful priests of the remnant, and he doesn't even follow Our Lord's rules for admonition and fraternal correction?

    St. Matthew chapter 18:

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    15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. 16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.  17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican

    He has never approached me once. Let alone accompanied by a few others saying the same thing. He is just acting like the modern villains, using propaganda, distortion, lies, psychology, rabble-rousing, etc. Completely human psychological tactics. NOT those laid out (above) by Our Lord Jesus Christ.

    And he has no charity for the hundreds of Catholics that make up CathInfo? He treats CathInfo like it's a single person, and a hopeless cause at that. He hasn't even *tried* to save any of the hundreds of people who are here. Souls that Christ died to save. Where is his Faith? his Charity? No, he's just being completely human. Us vs. Them. We are "the enemy", "enemy territory" etc.

    He was in Pfeifferville too long, completely absorbing Fr. Pfeiffer's cult tactics -- and plenty of diabolical influence from their resident Santeria warlock.

    Fr. Hewko hasn't talked to me OR come to CathInfo because he can't gainsay (refute) a single thing that was said here about him. Just like the Conciliar Church doesn't ever want to put Tradition on trial, because the Conciliar Church is a new religion, completely in-the-wrong, and they know it.
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #7 on: November 13, 2023, 12:09:26 PM »
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  • If Fr H is mad about comments made on this site when he asked +W for holy oils...I thought he got a fair shake.  There was plenty of criticism for his attitude towards +W, but also criticism of +W's demands the he accept V2 miracles.  Both were wrong and right. 

    But maybe he's mad that the letter/emails were published here?  I don't know who "leaked" them but it's not cathinfo's fault, but the person who posted them.


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #8 on: November 13, 2023, 01:35:37 PM »
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  • Usually we see priests hating other priests. 

    Now we see a priest hating lay people.

    At least this is original. :popcorn:

    Who will be the first trad to have a nuke? :fryingpan:


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #9 on: November 13, 2023, 01:47:14 PM »
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  • Now we see a priest hating lay people.
    Hating lay people with knowledge of the skeletons in the closet perhaps?

    I never knew smear campaigns were a continuation of Operation Survival.

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #10 on: November 13, 2023, 01:56:20 PM »
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  • If Fr H is mad about comments made on this site when he asked +W for holy oils...I thought he got a fair shake.

    He absolutely got a fair shake.  Many of us agreed that Bishop Williamson's insistence on someone believing the NO "Eucharistic" "miracles" was unreasonable ... although others felt that there were hidden ulterior reasons for +Williamson's stance (history with Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko).  Father Hewko is mistaken in thinking that people have grudges and form an opinion based on non-objective considerations.  I disagree with Bishop Williamson on a handful of things, most of them peripheral:  NO Eucharistic miracles, Garabandal, Valtorta, etc. ... and, of more importance, the "Frankenchurch" ecclesiology (as some SV-types have termed it).  Otherwise, I have the utmost respect for him.  I disagree with some things Father Cekada writes, but agree with others.  I disagree with some things the Dimond Brothers write, but agree with others.  I do not takes sides out of respect for persons but look at each issue independently, and there are many others here who do the same.  I don't think there are people who simply "hate on" Father Hewko simply due to his past association with Father Pfeiffer, but they do disagree with the areas in which he has not adequately distanced himself from Fr. Pfeiffer, and areas where he shows signs of continuing on in some of the mentality that group has.


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #11 on: November 13, 2023, 02:24:52 PM »
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  • A while ago before I was even aware of any of these histories, much less the specific names, I picked up from a lobby table at some chapel a Fr. Hewko ordination card from a stack someone had left there. It is lovely, an eastern sort of icon image of Mother and Child. I use it as a place marker for Marian devotions in my missal. After reading various threads here about Pfeifferville and all its sordid details, I thought maybe to burn it. But perhaps better to pray for Fr. Hewko and simply keep the card, yes?
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #12 on: November 13, 2023, 02:52:14 PM »
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  • FYI, when Fr. Hewko just left Fr. Pfeiffer's group, there was a discussion on here about him.
    I bet someone could find it.

    I think I stated at the time that Fr. Hewko owed us an apology. Not ME personally, but rather the hundreds of CathInfo members he had slandered in the past.

    But in light of the sermon above, it appears he is doubling-down on his old stance. His rhetoric of late is worse than when he was part of Fr. Pfeiffer's cult. Sad!

    He's NOT going in the right direction.
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #13 on: November 13, 2023, 03:16:55 PM »
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  • FYI, when Fr. Hewko just left Fr. Pfeiffer's group, there was a discussion on here about him.
    I bet someone could find it.

    I think I stated at the time that Fr. Hewko owed us an apology. Not ME personally, but rather the hundreds of CathInfo members he had slandered in the past.

    But in light of the sermon above, it appears he is doubling-down on his old stance. His rhetoric of late is worse than when he was part of Fr. Pfeiffer's cult. Sad!

    He's NOT going in the right direction.

    Gotta give the benefactors what they demand:

    If the anti-Williamsonism dried up, so would the donations.

    It’s their only raison d’etre.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #14 on: November 13, 2023, 04:21:46 PM »
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  • Gotta give the benefactors what they demand:

    If the anti-Williamsonism dried up, so would the donations.

    It’s their only raison d’etre.

    I'm just curious about whether Father Hewko was actually able to create some kind of rift between +Williamson and +Faure, as he claimed he did, or whether there was some misrepresentation there.  Father Hewko made it seem as though his new NH seminary has the support of +Faure and (indirectly) +Zendejas.