Salesperson selling B2B technology such as banking or accounting software, Master Data Management, web security technology, compliance software, human resources software.

Skip college, (waste of money and time).  Start at the bottom in your late teens early 20s and stick with it.  Hit the phones, call businesses and generate opportunities, network like mad, schmooze, remember people's birthdays, attend trade conferences and stick with it.  Use the energy you have in your early 20s to really carve yourself a reputation for hard work and intelligent selling.  Remember that your peers are going to be the managing directors of other firms and you'll be their old buddy who they trust.

Don't believe the fairytale that there is a better career out there somewhere that would leave you feeling much more fullfilled.  Every job has it's ups and downs which is why it is called "work".  If it was pleasant they would not pay you to do it.

By 25 you can be on a basic salary of $90,000 per year and double that in commissions.  By 35 you will be on $150-$175k pa basic and $250k-$300 with commission while still doing a 9-5 job and not killing yourself.  A lot of these roles let you work from home several days per week.

If you are smart you'll have debt free 5 bedroom house before you are 40 in a nice suburb with decent schools.  Then you can back pedal for the next 25 years.

Large firms are crying out for salespeople with EXPERIENCE.  Experience often means simply having lots of contacts and being a safe bet.  They want to hire mediocre people as that is safe for them.

Once you have 10 years "experience" under your belt you can make a decent living simply by job hopping and make a six-figure income without killing yourself.

And don't believe the myth that salespeople all need the gift of the gab.  All you need to be as a salesperson is a person who is generally speaking liked by people and likes people.

Salesperson selling B2B technology such as banking or accounting software, Master Data Management, web security technology, compliance software, human resources software.

Skip college, (waste of money and time).  Start at the bottom in your late teens early 20s and stick with it.  Hit the phones, call businesses and generate opportunities, network like mad, schmooze, remember people's birthdays, attend trade conferences and stick with it.  Use the energy you have in your early 20s to really carve yourself a reputation for hard work and intelligent selling.  Remember that your peers are going to be the managing directors of other firms and you'll be their old buddy who they trust.

Don't believe the fairytale that there is a better career out there somewhere that would leave you feeling much more fullfilled.  Every job has it's ups and downs which is why it is called "work".  If it was pleasant they would not pay you to do it.

By 25 you can be on a basic salary of $90,000 per year and double that in commissions.  By 35 you will be on $150-$175k pa basic and $250k-$300 with commission while still doing a 9-5 job and not killing yourself.  A lot of these roles let you work from home several days per week.

If you are smart you'll have debt free 5 bedroom house before you are 40 in a nice suburb with decent schools.  Then you can back pedal for the next 25 years.

Large firms are crying out for salespeople with EXPERIENCE.  Experience often means simply having lots of contacts and being a safe bet.  They want to hire mediocre people as that is safe for them.

Once you have 10 years "experience" under your belt you can make a decent living simply by job hopping and make a six-figure income without killing yourself.

And don't believe the myth that salespeople all need the gift of the gab.  All you need to be as a salesperson is a person who is generally speaking liked by people and likes people.

I'm almost disappointed that this was posted on CathInfo.

Do we really have "this type of person" on here?

Nice suburb? Decent schools? 250K a year income?

So now we're about making lots of money, living the suburban life, and sending our children to public schools?

Read up on the Gospel, particularly the part about the "moth consumes" and "thieves break in and steal".

Also the part where Our Lord says that those who corrupt children would be better off if they were drowned in the sea with a millstone tied around their neck. What would He say about sending children to modern, communist, atheist public schools? They're an occasion of sin seven ways from Sunday.

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Skip college, (waste of money and time).

Not if you get a degree in something actually useful (e.g. engineering). Every person I've talked to who has not gone to college has thought it was a huge mistake.

I'd rather be able to make something, and actually contribute to the world, rather than simply sell stuff other people made.

Without someone selling it, how would the engineer or the CEO get paid? How would the engineer know how to improve the design without someone constantly talking to the customers and knowing the competitors?

If you want to be 100000 or more in debt age 25 right around the time you should be having children with your Catholic wife having stayed chaste for all those years in college, then you are a braver man than me. Remember however that China are turning out engineers too and their language and culture do not hamper them as much in engineering from taking your job than they would in sales. No American wants to be sold to by some Chinaman flying in from Harbin. Different culture, funny accent, different sense of humor. Just does not work.

Chinese designed ipad, tv, jet engine, car, who cares as long as it is cheaper?

If you want to be 100000 or more in debt age 25 right around the time you should be having children with your Catholic wife having stayed chaste for all those years in college, then you are a braver man than me. Remember however that China are turning out engineers too and their language and culture do not hamper them as much in engineering from taking your job than they would in sales. No American wants to be sold to by some Chinaman flying in from Harbin. Different culture, funny accent, different sense of humor. Just does not work.

Nope....most of that stuff was sdesigned in the US, where there is a huge shortage of engineers.

Due to living at home, working part-time, and scholarships/grants, I will have very little debt (comparatively) when I graduate-maybe $20K at the most.

Average starting salary for engineers in my field: $40k+

Working in technical support/implementation for a company that sells various electronic equipment, I don't have a whole lot of respect for sales people. A lot of them are only concerned about making the sale and getting their commission. To that end they have made outrageous promises, offered features that we don't have, etc......then they ask engineering/tech support to "can we make it happen?". Then we grind our teeth and say "Yeah, sure....". Some of them are good and don't do stuff like that, but I still don;t have a whole lot of respect for sales as a profession.

Good luck trying to sell stuff in a depression....they'll still need engineers to keep the stuff already sold working.

Salespeople typically do better in a recession.  My people always have since I am at the demand end of selling and I've weathered 3 including this one and the DOT COM crash.  Firms get focused on hitting their numbers and hire more and better people.  

It's double or quits for a lot of B2B Tech firms at that point.  It makes no sense for the caretaker CEOs or management to play it safe with the investors money so they often cut marketing fluff but increase the direct sales effort as this brings the fastest results.

They're living quarter to quarter.

On average salespeople make more money than engineers and work less hard.

I don't even need to leave the house or travel to work.  I work in an office in my garden.  Useful for family life.

My brother is an engineer that works for the fed and makes $120K a year with no debt. He is finishing his masters with no debt and just turned 29. He works 3 days at the office and two days from home with premium health care, vacation time, and everything else. I think he made a good choice.

I am sedetrad. It won't show my name in the post.

What's immoral about financial data or accounting software or Master Data Management systems, or Blade servers or secure banking dongles?

There are literally thousands of useful and needed Business to Business services that need to be promoted and sold.  They help businesses run more efficiently and competitively.  Faster payments in banking.  Remember when payments used to take several days to show up in your bank account?  Now they show up the same day in most civilised countries and money from the US shows up in my USD bank account in the UK the next day.  That is a useful service which benefits people as much as the jet engine or the electric toothbrush.  I helped to sell several aspects of that.  I made about $400k over 4 years with 5 clients.  They made about $34 million.

Sure, some innovations mean that the businesses cut costs and humans lose jobs.  That is called progress.  The motor car was not evil because blacksmiths needed to find new work.   Nor was the jet engine evil because Train drivers were put out of work. There are not entire offices dedicated to typing docuмents any longer either because of the word processor.

Agreed, Wallflower, the years of networking is a double edge sword.  It takes years to develop which is why you want to start early and do it as much as possible.  PM me on fisheaters or here and I'll send you some free training materials I put together years ago which you may find useful.

This is ggreg by the way but for some reason it is posting anon.

My brother is an engineer ... I think he made a good choice.

I am sedetrad. It won't show my name in the post.

Methinks you gotta check the box next to "DO NOT post this Anonymously"
at the bottom, right above the REPLY button.