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« on: November 18, 2013, 01:54:00 PM »
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  • As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?


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    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 01:57:50 PM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?

    I think if you send them anything it should be a religious Christmas card, and not an ecuмenical holiday card.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 02:11:20 PM »
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  • I also have a number of Jєωιѕн acquaintances.  I send them friendly greetings without any reference to religion or the secular Xmas.  Find or make a card with a winter or appropriate seasonal scene on it, or send a Photoshop card of your family.  So far as mentioning Christmas, no problem.  If they get offended, I wouldn't bother with them.  I regularly receive "Christmas" cards from people who are Jєωιѕн, Muslim and the majority who follow no religion.  I do not feel the need to reciprocate unless it is family.  Then, I go with a nonreligious card altogether.  They never seem to notice.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 02:38:15 PM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?


    If they object to receiving a Christmas card from you, then I question whether or not they are truly your friends.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 02:52:03 PM »
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  • Jєωs shouldn't get Christmas cards.  They don't celebrate Christmas.  It's like sending someone a birthday card when it's not their birthday.  

    I don't see any point in then sending them some nebulous "holiday" card in place of a Christmas card, since you (presumably, as a Catholic) don't celebrate "the holidays."
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 02:52:51 PM »
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  • I would not send anything.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 04:03:17 PM »
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  • You should worry less about Christmas cards and worry about the spiritual danger in which you are placing yourself.  

    Friendship with those who deny Our Lord and order their lives around this denial?  

    Explain to them that Judaism is now a dead religion and was only intended to carry the bag for the Our Lord's arrival.  At least Islam and those other false religions with their false gods have corresponding false (satanic) beginnings.

    Harsh words, yes.  

    Tell your Jєωιѕн friends that you have discovered Catholic Truth.  

    Now, if these Jєωιѕн friends are merely on a bowling team with you, then don't bring up anything nor have much to do with them.  


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    « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 04:15:31 PM »
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    You should worry less about Christmas cards and worry about the spiritual danger in which you are placing yourself.  

    Friendship with those who deny Our Lord and order their lives around this denial?  

    Explain to them that Judaism is now a dead religion and was only intended to carry the bag for the Our Lord's arrival.  At least Islam and those other false religions with their false gods have corresponding false (satanic) beginnings.

    Harsh words, yes.  

    Tell your Jєωιѕн friends that you have discovered Catholic Truth.  

    Now, if these Jєωιѕн friends are merely on a bowling team with you, then don't bring up anything nor have much to do with them.  



    I posted the above.

    More on this subject.  If you were born into a Jєωιѕн family then it's going to be tough for you because you will be tempted to go all syncretism (ala John Paul II).  We often hear it said that Jєωs and Catholics worship the same God but that can't be because Our Lord came and died on the cross with his Beloved Mother at the foot of the cross.  The other Jєωs were just jeering at Him in his final agony.  Also, Jєωs not only reject Our Lord but are a race-based belief system, now, they are the only ones who adhere to a race based philosophy but are never really called on it but the race hustlers of our society.  A Jєω who converts to the Catholic Faith must, in all reality, renounce what he has been up until that moment.  A "convert" who plays both sides of the fence is being duplicitious.  

    So, your brothers and sisters, if you come from a Jєωιѕн family, have probably sat shiva on you.  This is a good thing because you would need to break away from them.

    It's a tough thing.  There are many secret believers among the Jєωιѕн people because if a Jєω converts then his family will completely disown him.  




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    « Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 08:39:30 PM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?


    If they object to receiving a Christmas card from you, then I question whether or not they are truly your friends.


    How would you feel about receiving Hanukkah cards?

    I will not send non-religious Christmas cards.  If I can't sent such a card to someone, I send nothing.  I have Jєωιѕн relatives as well as Jєωιѕн friends.  They don't send me religious greetings either.  That's what birthday cards are for.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 08:56:01 PM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?


    If they object to receiving a Christmas card from you, then I question whether or not they are truly your friends.


    How would you feel about receiving Hanukkah cards?

    I will not send non-religious Christmas cards.  If I can't sent such a card to someone, I send nothing.  I have Jєωιѕн relatives as well as Jєωιѕн friends.  They don't send me religious greetings either.  That's what birthday cards are for.



    That is about what I was going to say.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 19, 2013, 12:35:00 AM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?


    If they object to receiving a Christmas card from you, then I question whether or not they are truly your friends.


    How would you feel about receiving Hanukkah cards?

    I will not send non-religious Christmas cards.  If I can't sent such a card to someone, I send nothing.  I have Jєωιѕн relatives as well as Jєωιѕн friends.  They don't send me religious greetings either.  That's what birthday cards are for.



    Yes, I agree.  However, I got a facebook message from this person asking me what our current address is.  I noted the interesting timing of the question and instantly deduced that they were planning on sending a Christmas card.  I reflexively responded with our address and then said, hey, what's your's?  Then realizing that I would have to send a card to someone who denies Christ, I realized that I was in a quandary.  I hope that clears up everyone's picture of the situation.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 19, 2013, 07:39:59 AM »
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  • If you must send them something, send a Happy New Year card.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 19, 2013, 11:28:44 AM »
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  • How about a pic of the family with an update type of letter?

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    « Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 08:21:26 PM »
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  • The two posts above both seem to me to offer good advice.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 05:10:06 AM »
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    As a recent convert to Tradition, brought up with the novus ordo and public schooling, I have quite a few Jєωιѕн friends.  What do you do around Christmas time?  Send them a "holiday" card in reciprocation for the Christmas card or "holiday" card they send you?  What is the right thing to do?

    French doesn't have a word for "holidays" in the sense that goes by when some people say "Happy Holidays" A certain mioslem complained when I said "Joyeaux Noel." I asked him what woyuld you like me to say? Bon jour de qui sait quoi?
     :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:
    Then he acepted "Joyeaux Noel"
     :cool: :cool:  :cool: