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is no one more concerned?
« on: September 01, 2020, 09:12:34 AM »
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    • A few topics being going round that Daniel 12 was the third secret of Fatima.

    That during the 6th seal of revelations - anti Christ period that there is no forgiveness

    That is why the mark of the beast is an unforgivable sin (as we know Jesus said there are no unforgivable sin apart from final impenitence)


    He said blessed are those who make it for the three and a half years

    Other scripture talks of that God will sustain those during this period so they are blameless on judgement day.

    Is anyone else worried about this? As I'm sure I've commited a bad sin since the abomination (amazon synod)
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #1 on: September 01, 2020, 09:38:59 AM »
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    • You've posted your anxieties several times here before.  You're scrupulous.  No theologian teaches that there's anything such as an unforgivable sin apart from final impenitence; so long as someone lines, there's hope for repentance.

    It is the Holy Spirit Who attempts to inspire faith in people, as taught clearly by Trent, and if one resists the impulses of the Holy Spirit, faith and justification cannot happen.  It is the Holy Spirit who inspires people to repent of their sins.  That is why Our Lord speaks of blasphemies against the Holy Spirit being unforgivable, because in rejecting the Holy Spirit you reject the initial impulses of grace in the soul.

    It is the Holy Spirit who lifts the NATURAL state to the SUPERNATURAL level through sanctifying grace.  That is why Our Lord says it will not be forgiven in this world (natural) or the next (supernatural).
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 10:29:16 AM »
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    You've posted your anxieties several times here before.  You're scrupulous.  No theologian teaches that there's anything such as an unforgivable sin apart from final impenitence; so long as someone lines, there's hope for repentance.
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #3 on: September 01, 2020, 11:03:53 AM »
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    • But the book of the apocalypse says taking the mark is unforgivable
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #4 on: September 01, 2020, 11:59:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 01, 2020, 11:03:53 AM
    But the book of the apocalypse says taking the mark is unforgivable

    No it does not.  Are you a Protestant who decides to interpret various Bible verses on your own?  There's no agreement regarding what this "mark of the beast" is in the first place, and secondly, nowhere in Apocalypse does it say that it's unforgivable.  It simply says that those who accept the mark will go to hell.  It's no different than saying that those who commit adultery will go to hell.  It simply means that they are mortal sins deserving of hell.  If one then perseveres until death in this sin, then one will go to hell.  Some Christians caved and offered incense to the pagan gods due to fear of death, but they were later accepted back into the Church.  There's no such thing as an unforgivable sin in the strict sense.  You would effectively be saying that Our Lord's Passion was powerless in the face of certain sins, which is blasphemous.
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #5 on: September 01, 2020, 12:02:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 01, 2020, 09:12:34 AM
    Is anyone else worried about this? As I'm sure I've commited a bad sin since the abomination (amazon synod)

    No, no one else is worried about this.  Not to mention that you're totally speculating about the Amazon synod being indicative of any particular period in the Church.

    Just stop this angst.  You need to worry more about pleasing God going forward than about punishment for your sins.  Worry about loving God and the rest takes care of itself.
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #6 on: September 01, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »
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    • Catholics don't worry. They take their concerns to Our Lady with prayer.
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    « Reply #7 on: September 01, 2020, 03:35:20 PM »
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    • The mark of the beast is not yet with us, so don't be concerned until it is with us, then when the matter is clear, all loyal to Our Lord will have to refuse it.  

    How will we survive without being able to buy and sell?  I'm not sure, but that will be our test.  For those too weak and give in when that time comes, there is no sin too great for God's mercy.  Find a priest, confess it, denounce the mark that you received, and never use it again to buy or sell.     
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #8 on: September 01, 2020, 06:17:26 PM »
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    • And just how do you propose to know when the mark of the beast will appear and what it will be? 
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    « Reply #9 on: September 01, 2020, 07:25:47 PM »
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    • Philippians 4:6-8


    Douay Rheims 

    6 Do not fret or have any anxiety about anything, but in every circuмstance and in everything, by prayer and petition ([a]definite requests), with thanksgiving, continue to make your wants known to God.
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #10 on: September 04, 2020, 02:27:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: jvk on September 01, 2020, 06:17:26 PM
    And just how do you propose to know when the mark of the beast will appear and what it will be?
    Good question.  Presumably, it should be obvious when the time comes, otherwise we would not be culpable.   
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #11 on: September 04, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 01, 2020, 03:35:20 PM
    The mark of the beast is not yet with us, so don't be concerned until it is with us, then when the matter is clear, all loyal to Our Lord will have to refuse it.  

    But the vaccine and the microchip are almost here. Isn't anyone else worried that that is the mark of the beast?
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #12 on: September 04, 2020, 12:06:33 PM »
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    • And when it comes Francis and the SSPX will tell people to take the mark and we will be without any support if we refuse.
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #13 on: September 04, 2020, 12:42:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 04, 2020, 12:05:13 PM
    But the vaccine and the microchip are almost here. Isn't anyone else worried that that is the mark of the beast?
    The specific description of the mark by St. John was that those who had it could buy and sell and those who didn't have it could not.   It clearly seems to be a means of monetary exchange.   I'm not sure it will have to do anything with the vaccine, but I suppose that could be part of it.  
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    Re: is no one more concerned?
    « Reply #14 on: September 04, 2020, 12:44:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 04, 2020, 12:42:06 PM
    The specific description of the mark by St. John was that those who had it could buy and sell and those who didn't have it could not.   It clearly seems to be a means of monetary exchange.   I'm not sure it will have to do anything with the vaccine, but I suppose that could be part of it.  
    Yes, buy or sell. When they vax us they will also implant a microchip in our hands as proof and only those with it will be allowed to buy or sell.
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