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Title: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 05:45:47 PM
I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no. 

If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?

Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Nadir on July 05, 2019, 06:04:20 PM
There is no such thing as same sex marriage, so how is it possible to attend something that doesn't exist? 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 06:10:40 PM
No.  

Not even the reception.  The reception is like a celebration of the marriage; why celebrate something that is not only not a marriage but an abomination?  
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Mega-fin on July 05, 2019, 06:56:55 PM
If your niece or nephew started murdering people, would you get together afterwards to celebrate their new life of crime to keep peace in the family?

You cannot serve both God and mammon. Sodomy and lesbianism is a sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance, should we go just to make sure auntie Margaret doesn’t think we’re too backwards and hateful? Then Our Lord will not say “Well done, good and faithful servant,” but instead “begins from me” because we loved creatures more then Him. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 07:14:30 PM
It cannot be right to condone, let alone celebrate a fundamentally sinful act.  
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Ladislaus on July 05, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
You're seriously asking this?

poche, that you?
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 09:19:13 PM
You're seriously asking this?

poche, that you?
It does seem incredible that anyone on CI would need to ask.  
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
No!  Why would you even want to attend?  This isn't a matter of showing basic respect, ie. attending a non-Catholic funeral for family or professional reasons.  It's a matter of celebrating mortal sin.  You probably can't do or say anything to stop the people; they're going to do what they want.  My best advice to those who know that voicing or otherwise making the truth known will make matters worse, drive the people further into sin, is to ignore the so-called marriage and avoid those involved as much as possible.  Treat them as you would strangers.  If you must interact with them, be cordial, be polite, be brief, and be gone!  
If this means cutting family ties, so be it.  Replace them with friends of sound moral character.  If you can't find any, keep to yourself and give more time to God. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on July 05, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
You're seriously asking this?

poche, that you?
I dislike the annonymous feature a decent chunk of the time (not any time, I get that some questions are genuinely of a sensetive nature) but yeah this one majorly made me jump.

I mean, I half tongue in cheek say I'm the most liberal person here besides Poche, but this one isn't remotely a question for me, like at all.  Absolutely not, never no way, not whatsoever in any universe would I ever go.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 11:10:34 PM
No. It is not “ok” to attend same sex wedding.  If you go, you are condoning mortal sin.  And no attending weddings of divorced and remarried either.  
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 05, 2019, 11:15:34 PM
The above post was by me Viva Cristo Rey. 

It has turned out to be blessing to be ostracized and shunned because we don’t have to be invited to any function involving sodomite dysfunctional lazy mean family members.   

Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Stubborn on July 06, 2019, 05:35:37 AM
I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no.

If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?
If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  

Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Stubborn on July 06, 2019, 05:36:18 AM
The above post was by me Viva Cristo Rey.

It has turned out to be blessing to be ostracized and shunned because we don’t have to be invited to any function involving sodomite dysfunctional lazy mean family members.  
Very true!
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Nadir on July 06, 2019, 06:22:32 AM
If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  
This is spot on! It was in my mind to say exactly that but I don't put it down so well.

When my only sister's two daughters married outside the church within a couple of months of each other I was not even informed They were getting married.

They know where I stand even though we have never discussed it. I am forever on the outer. I like it that way.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on July 06, 2019, 09:23:49 AM
No way any Catholic in his right mind doesn’t know the answer to this....shame on you for even asking.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on July 06, 2019, 09:25:41 AM
If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  
:applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Alexandria on July 06, 2019, 11:34:07 AM
No, it is not okay.   Not even the Catholic Answers crowd would tell you it's okay. 

The "keeping peace in the family" is a rationalization - thinking up a good excuse to do a bad thing.  It's also known as human respect.  Pontius Pilate suffered from it.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: 2Vermont on July 06, 2019, 11:41:19 AM
No, it is not okay.   Not even the Catholic Answers crowd would tell you it's okay.  

The "keeping peace in the family" is a rationalization - thinking up a good excuse to do a bad thing.  It's also known as human respect.  Pontius Pilate suffered from it.
Eh, I wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: forlorn on July 06, 2019, 12:36:25 PM
I feel like this is the "keeping peace within the family" rationale taken to the extreme. I'll admit I have in the past used that rationale to defend people going to their family's Protestant marriages and what have you, and now I'm starting to see that perhaps I was wrong, but there's still a key difference here. A marriage between a Protestant couple may still be a sacramental marriage. A marriage between a man and a woman within another religion is still a valid natural marriage. It still obeys natural law. Such a couple would not be guilty of the sin of fornication, for example. A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage is an abomination and a sin, defying the very nature of marriage itself. One may argue that a non-Catholic couple's wedding is just a celebration of their marriage and not their religion, but for a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage - well no marriage actually takes place. A mortally sinful mockery of marriage does. Attending such a "wedding" is willfully viewing a blasphemy and a vow to mortally sin. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 06, 2019, 12:49:54 PM
My lip is bleeding...

Not sure if I will be able to abstain...

So many jokes trying to burst forth...

Only a loss of connectivity may save me...
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 06, 2019, 01:08:38 PM
Did you serriously just ask if it was OK to go to a wedding of a couple of fαɢs?
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on July 06, 2019, 04:08:12 PM
I feel like this is the "keeping peace within the family" rationale taken to the extreme. I'll admit I have in the past used that rationale to defend people going to their family's Protestant marriages and what have you, and now I'm starting to see that perhaps I was wrong, but there's still a key difference here. A marriage between a Protestant couple may still be a sacramental marriage. A marriage between a man and a woman within another religion is still a valid natural marriage. It still obeys natural law. Such a couple would not be guilty of the sin of fornication, for example. A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage is an abomination and a sin, defying the very nature of marriage itself. One may argue that a non-Catholic couple's wedding is just a celebration of their marriage and not their religion, but for a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage - well no marriage actually takes place. A mortally sinful mockery of marriage does. Attending such a "wedding" is willfully viewing a blasphemy and a vow to mortally sin.
I believe even pre Vatican II, permission was given to attend Protestant weddings.  At least some of the time.

I think attending a Protestant wedding is legitimate, as far as I can tell, its at least a valid marriage, and I don't see what about it is *particularly* celebrating Protestantism like you mentioned (maybe there are case by case exceptions to this.)

I think a harder case, that really should be a no, is attending a wedding of someone who has been divorced.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on July 06, 2019, 04:24:58 PM
If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  
Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: forlorn on July 06, 2019, 04:30:39 PM
Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.
The passage is about the necessity of associating yourself with sinners in the world, for the world is full of them and you'd have to be a hermit to stay away from then entirely. So you don't have to quit your job just because a co-worker is living a life of sin. But it says you should not tolerate anyone claiming to be Catholic while living a completely un-Catholic lifestyle. You must call them out on it and avoid them until they change their ways. I'm not sure if issue of a non-Catholic family member who lives in sin is directly addressed there. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 07, 2019, 02:41:12 PM
Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.
Our hero, St. Paul, is speaking of incestuous as well as hetro fornicators - that we are to have nothing whatsoever to do with them. He is saying that it matters not whether they profess the true faith or not if you know they are fornicators, have nothing to do with them.....  [11] But now I have written to you, not to keep company: [even] if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not so much as to eat".

From the Haydock Bible (https://web.archive.org/web/20160405095701/http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id166.html):
"...But you must take notice, that I mean, when they are brethren, or Christians, not when they are infidels, for this cannot be avoided, especially by those who are to labour to convert them..."
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Stubborn on July 07, 2019, 02:41:27 PM
Our hero, St. Paul, is speaking of incestuous as well as hetro fornicators - that we are to have nothing whatsoever to do with them. He is saying that it matters not whether they profess the true faith or not if you know they are fornicators, have nothing to do with them.....  [11] But now I have written to you, not to keep company: [even] if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not so much as to eat".

From the Haydock Bible (https://web.archive.org/web/20160405095701/http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id166.html):
"...But you must take notice, that I mean, when they are brethren, or Christians, not when they are infidels, for this cannot be avoided, especially by those who are to labour to convert them..."
Me
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 07, 2019, 07:47:54 PM
I don't know any conciliar Catholics that wouldn't attend a same sex wedding. My family goes out of their way to celebrate these unions. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: poche on July 08, 2019, 08:43:07 AM
I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no.

If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?
The only way I would attend such an affair would be if I were to be physically dragged there kicking and screaming.  :fryingpan: :fryingpan: :fryingpan: :really-mad2: :really-mad2: :really-mad2:
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Geremia on July 08, 2019, 04:51:51 PM
It's a mortal sin of scandal for a Catholic to even participate in an invalid marriage between a man and a woman.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2019, 01:04:23 PM
I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no.

If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?
Some things are more important than peace.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2019, 02:11:45 PM
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No.  Have nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
Peace in the family?  You speak of a False peace which is no such thing.  Are you afraid to have negative remarks come your way? Put some bone in your back bone.  Be courageous!  Stay home!!
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: jvk on July 09, 2019, 09:25:46 PM
Such a blasphemous thing shouldn't even be called a "wedding".  

DISGUSTING.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2019, 12:02:34 AM
Peace is not the most important thing.
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 11, 2019, 08:51:35 AM
I don’t know how many times I’ve heard this question asked in the Catholic Facebook mom groups I’m in, or other places. How is there any confusion?

It’s common sense: No, we can’t attend or we are giving our consent to sin. 
Title: Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
Post by: Mithrandylan on July 11, 2019, 09:01:57 AM
A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ union is not comparable to a Protestant wedding or any other non-Catholic wedding.  The boundaries of lawful attendance at such things pertain to the often religious nature of such events, and Catholics who are invited to attend must ensure that their attendance, which is permitted even under the old canon law for serious reasons (family ruptures being one of them), be passive.  This is to avoid given scandal of indifference.  The actual union itself is unobjectionable from a moral perspective, supposing that the parties are free to marry.  What's more, in the case of baptized protestants, it's an actual sacrament.

A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ union, as virtually everyone has pointed out, is not only not a real marriage (and in that one particular regard is more analogous to a wedding between two people who have living spouses) but the event itself is an intrinsically grave moral and social evil.  It would be analogous to attending someone's abortion or ѕυιcιdє (both of which are sometimes "celebrated" nowadays).  The notion of even passive attendance goes out the window because there is nothing at all in the scenario which can be morally supported.