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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2019, 09:25:41 AM »
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  • If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

    If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  
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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #16 on: July 06, 2019, 11:34:07 AM »
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  • No, it is not okay.   Not even the Catholic Answers crowd would tell you it's okay. 

    The "keeping peace in the family" is a rationalization - thinking up a good excuse to do a bad thing.  It's also known as human respect.  Pontius Pilate suffered from it.


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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #17 on: July 06, 2019, 11:41:19 AM »
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  • No, it is not okay.   Not even the Catholic Answers crowd would tell you it's okay.  

    The "keeping peace in the family" is a rationalization - thinking up a good excuse to do a bad thing.  It's also known as human respect.  Pontius Pilate suffered from it.
    Eh, I wouldn't be so sure.
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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #18 on: July 06, 2019, 12:36:25 PM »
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  • I feel like this is the "keeping peace within the family" rationale taken to the extreme. I'll admit I have in the past used that rationale to defend people going to their family's Protestant marriages and what have you, and now I'm starting to see that perhaps I was wrong, but there's still a key difference here. A marriage between a Protestant couple may still be a sacramental marriage. A marriage between a man and a woman within another religion is still a valid natural marriage. It still obeys natural law. Such a couple would not be guilty of the sin of fornication, for example. A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage is an abomination and a sin, defying the very nature of marriage itself. One may argue that a non-Catholic couple's wedding is just a celebration of their marriage and not their religion, but for a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage - well no marriage actually takes place. A mortally sinful mockery of marriage does. Attending such a "wedding" is willfully viewing a blasphemy and a vow to mortally sin. 

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #19 on: July 06, 2019, 12:49:54 PM »
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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #20 on: July 06, 2019, 01:08:38 PM »
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  • Did you serriously just ask if it was OK to go to a wedding of a couple of fαɢs?

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #21 on: July 06, 2019, 04:08:12 PM »
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  • I feel like this is the "keeping peace within the family" rationale taken to the extreme. I'll admit I have in the past used that rationale to defend people going to their family's Protestant marriages and what have you, and now I'm starting to see that perhaps I was wrong, but there's still a key difference here. A marriage between a Protestant couple may still be a sacramental marriage. A marriage between a man and a woman within another religion is still a valid natural marriage. It still obeys natural law. Such a couple would not be guilty of the sin of fornication, for example. A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage is an abomination and a sin, defying the very nature of marriage itself. One may argue that a non-Catholic couple's wedding is just a celebration of their marriage and not their religion, but for a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage - well no marriage actually takes place. A mortally sinful mockery of marriage does. Attending such a "wedding" is willfully viewing a blasphemy and a vow to mortally sin.
    I believe even pre Vatican II, permission was given to attend Protestant weddings.  At least some of the time.

    I think attending a Protestant wedding is legitimate, as far as I can tell, its at least a valid marriage, and I don't see what about it is *particularly* celebrating Protestantism like you mentioned (maybe there are case by case exceptions to this.)

    I think a harder case, that really should be a no, is attending a wedding of someone who has been divorced.

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #22 on: July 06, 2019, 04:24:58 PM »
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  • If they even were to invite you, then take that as a wake up call that you are doing something wrong. You should have disowned them - and they should know without any doubt whatsoever that you've disowned them, probably a long time ago. No way should they even think about inviting you.

    If you want to keep peace in the family, then break all ties and do not associate with them in any way. Pray for them certainly, keep praying for them, but stay away and keep the rest of your family away from them at all costs. They are too far gone for any "dialogue" whatsoever at this point and can only bring disaster to peace in your family.  
    Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

    To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.


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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #23 on: July 06, 2019, 04:30:39 PM »
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  • Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

    To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.
    The passage is about the necessity of associating yourself with sinners in the world, for the world is full of them and you'd have to be a hermit to stay away from then entirely. So you don't have to quit your job just because a co-worker is living a life of sin. But it says you should not tolerate anyone claiming to be Catholic while living a completely un-Catholic lifestyle. You must call them out on it and avoid them until they change their ways. I'm not sure if issue of a non-Catholic family member who lives in sin is directly addressed there. 

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #24 on: July 07, 2019, 02:41:12 PM »
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  • Do you think St Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 5 are relevant?  Does it matter if they don't profess to be Christian or Catholic?

    To be clear, I speak of associating with them, not attending their celebration of wickedness, which is *of course* illegitimate.
    Our hero, St. Paul, is speaking of incestuous as well as hetro fornicators - that we are to have nothing whatsoever to do with them. He is saying that it matters not whether they profess the true faith or not if you know they are fornicators, have nothing to do with them.....  [11] But now I have written to you, not to keep company: [even] if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not so much as to eat".

    From the Haydock Bible:
    "...But you must take notice, that I mean, when they are brethren, or Christians, not when they are infidels, for this cannot be avoided, especially by those who are to labour to convert them..."

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #25 on: July 07, 2019, 02:41:27 PM »
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  • Our hero, St. Paul, is speaking of incestuous as well as hetro fornicators - that we are to have nothing whatsoever to do with them. He is saying that it matters not whether they profess the true faith or not if you know they are fornicators, have nothing to do with them.....  [11] But now I have written to you, not to keep company: [even] if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not so much as to eat".

    From the Haydock Bible:
    "...But you must take notice, that I mean, when they are brethren, or Christians, not when they are infidels, for this cannot be avoided, especially by those who are to labour to convert them..."
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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #26 on: July 07, 2019, 07:47:54 PM »
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  • I don't know any conciliar Catholics that wouldn't attend a same sex wedding. My family goes out of their way to celebrate these unions. 

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #27 on: July 08, 2019, 08:43:07 AM »
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  • I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no.

    If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?
    The only way I would attend such an affair would be if I were to be physically dragged there kicking and screaming.  :fryingpan: :fryingpan: :fryingpan: :really-mad2: :really-mad2: :really-mad2:

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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #28 on: July 08, 2019, 04:51:51 PM »
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  • It's a mortal sin of scandal for a Catholic to even participate in an invalid marriage between a man and a woman.
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    Re: Is it okay to attend a Same Sex Wedding?
    « Reply #29 on: July 09, 2019, 01:04:23 PM »
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  • I say no.  Even most Novus Ordo websites confirm my no.

    If one of you had a cousin or niece who was getting married to a member of the same sex would you attend the reception, just to keep the peace in the family?
    Some things are more important than peace.