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Is it a sin to slack off at work?
« on: June 01, 2023, 08:44:23 AM »
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    • I wanted to get out early today so I slacked off the last 23 minutes of my shift (we can sign out 7 minutes early). (If I didn't i would have been waiting outside potentially not going home early)

    I figured that since I never take my 15 minute tea breaks it would be fine but I feel surprisingly guilty over it.

    Have I committed a sin?
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 08:58:07 AM »
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    • I'd say no worries.  You're entitled to those 15-minute breaks anyway, so IMO you have absolutely nothing to be concerned about.  If anything they owe you.

    Even then, it's generally understood that people are not 100% productive every minute that they're on the clock.  People are human after all, and not machines.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 09:25:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 01, 2023, 08:58:07 AM
    I'd say no worries.  You're entitled to those 15-minute breaks anyway, so IMO you have absolutely nothing to be concerned about.  If anything they owe you.

    Even then, it's generally understood that people are not 100% productive every minute that they're on the clock.  People are human after all, and not machines.
    I guess I'm being scrupulous over my work ethic. I honestly hate the idea of modern 'work'.

    I especially despise how most companies (such as the one I work at), support the lgbt satan agenda. I wish I could just tell them they are on the road to hell but I don't think it would help them, and I would probably lose my job.

    I kind of wish I could be a monk, but I don't see any real options for that in today's world. And I don't think that's God's will for me (at least right now). I just want to pray and read holy books all day...
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 10:06:27 AM »
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    • I wouldn't want to encourage a scruple over it, but in general, you are offering time and work for pay, and you need to be working.

    This said, no one can continuously work without either taking some kind of break, or slowing the pace of work as needed.  Any employer needs to understand this. 

    The recent trend is to hire as few people as possible, pay them as little as you can get by with paying them, and get as much work out of them as possible.  The mantra is "do more with less" and multitask, multitask, multitask.  That's a recipe for getting slipshod work out of people.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2023, 10:08:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 09:25:18 AM
    I guess I'm being scrupulous over my work ethic. I honestly hate the idea of modern 'work'.

    I especially despise how most companies (such as the one I work at), support the lgbt satan agenda. I wish I could just tell them they are on the road to hell but I don't think it would help them, and I would probably lose my job.

    I kind of wish I could be a monk, but I don't see any real options for that in today's world. And I don't think that's God's will for me (at least right now). I just want to pray and read holy books all day...
    Sure there are.  Monasteries are always on the lookout for new postulants.  If you discern that God might be calling you to that, check it out.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2023, 10:29:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on June 01, 2023, 10:08:06 AM
    Sure there are.  Monasteries are always on the lookout for new postulants.  If you discern that God might be calling you to that, check it out.
    How would I even look into this? Also I am worried about them being compromised on V2, the new mass and the new rites (especially ordination) and potentially invincible ignorance and BoB/BoD.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2023, 10:40:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on June 01, 2023, 10:06:27 AM
    I wouldn't want to encourage a scruple over it, but in general, you are offering time and work for pay, and you need to be working.

    This said, no one can continuously work without either taking some kind of break, or slowing the pace of work as needed.  Any employer needs to understand this.

    The recent trend is to hire as few people as possible, pay them as little as you can get by with paying them, and get as much work out of them as possible.  The mantra is "do more with less" and multitask, multitask, multitask.  That's a recipe for getting slipshod work out of people.

    Not just that, but a lot of employers try to pressure people into skipping the breaks they're entitled to by law, or working overtime without being paid.  That's in the case of hourly workers.  For salaried, there's no expectation of how much time will be required, so one is required to work more if necessary or can work less if there's less work.  So that's a different situation, both morally and by law.

    With that said, productivity actually goes down, more mistakes happen, and sometimes resulting in risk of injury ... when employees are overworked.  And, as I said, it's generally understood that people aren't 100% productive.  Slacking off on purpose is one thing, but taking a break when you're worn out or can't focus is quite another.  In the case of OP, he was skipping the usual breaks, so there's no issue whatsoever in taking some of that time back.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 10:42:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 01, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
    in the case of OP, he was skipping the usual breaks, so there's no issue whatsoever in taking some of that time back.
    Yes but we are not supposed to take breaks within the first or last hour or work. 
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #8 on: June 01, 2023, 11:18:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 10:29:37 AM
    How would I even look into this? Also I am worried about them being compromised on V2, the new mass and the new rites (especially ordination) and potentially invincible ignorance and BoB/BoD.
    Fr. Alphonsus' Website

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    Jesus tells us that “Many are called, but few are chosen.” A good sign of a Redemptorist vocation is the desire to serve God by helping poor abandoned souls, either by embracing the priest’s vocation of preaching and study or the brother’s vocation of prayer and manual work.
    But while we must cooperate with God’s grace, it is still His gift that He gives to whomever He pleases: “You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you.” When God calls a young man to be a Redemptorist Father or Brother, He also gives the grace to persevere in the vocation to serve Him in the poor and spiritually abandoned. For now, inquiries about our Redemptorist vocation see our contact page.



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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #9 on: June 01, 2023, 11:55:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 10:42:52 AM
    Yes but we are not supposed to take breaks within the first or last hour or work.

    That doesn't matter.  You had a reason to deviate from the normal procedure, and the key thing is that you're not shorting the employer of work that they paid for, which you have not done since you took your breaks.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #10 on: June 01, 2023, 11:36:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 01, 2023, 11:55:27 AM
    That doesn't matter.  You had a reason to deviate from the normal procedure, and the key thing is that you're not shorting the employer of work that they paid for, which you have not done since you took your breaks.
    Yes.  Spirit of the law over letter of the law.
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #11 on: June 01, 2023, 11:48:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 08:44:23 AM
    I wanted to get out early today so I slacked off the last 23 minutes of my shift (we can sign out 7 minutes early). (If I didn't i would have been waiting outside potentially not going home early)

    I figured that since I never take my 15 minute tea breaks it would be fine but I feel surprisingly guilty over it.

    Have I committed a sin?

    No. It's matter of proper judgment and use of time in accordance with what is allowed at work. If you are entitled to a short fifteen-minute break and can leave seven minutes early with one minute to spare, that is fine. It depends also on how your work calculates payroll. I know at mine, it counts after eight minutes for each quarter hour. 
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #12 on: June 01, 2023, 11:50:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 08:44:23 AM
    I wanted to get out early today so I slacked off the last 23 minutes of my shift (we can sign out 7 minutes early). (If I didn't i would have been waiting outside potentially not going home early)

    I figured that since I never take my 15 minute tea breaks it would be fine but I feel surprisingly guilty over it.

    Have I committed a sin?


    No. It's matter of proper judgment and use of time in accordance with what is allowed at work. If you are entitled to a short fifteen-minute break and can leave seven minutes early with one minute to spare, that is fine. It depends also on how your work calculates payroll. I know at mine, it counts after eight minutes for each quarter hour. 
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #13 on: June 02, 2023, 06:05:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 01, 2023, 11:18:48 AM
    Fr. Alphonsus' Website

    Click the link below and find out.

    How do I know if God is calling me to be a Traditional Redemptorist priest or brother?

    Jesus tells us that “Many are called, but few are chosen.” A good sign of a Redemptorist vocation is the desire to serve God by helping poor abandoned souls, either by embracing the priest’s vocation of preaching and study or the brother’s vocation of prayer and manual work.
    But while we must cooperate with God’s grace, it is still His gift that He gives to whomever He pleases: “You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you.” When God calls a young man to be a Redemptorist Father or Brother, He also gives the grace to persevere in the vocation to serve Him in the poor and spiritually abandoned. For now, inquiries about our Redemptorist vocation see our contact page.
    I don't live in USA...
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    Re: Is it a sin to slack off at work?
    « Reply #14 on: June 02, 2023, 09:06:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on June 02, 2023, 06:05:41 PM
    I don't live in USA...
    We don't you contact them and ask if they know of some similar monastery in your country

    or..

    Do an Ignatian retreat with SSPX and see where that leads.
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