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Offline Michaelknoxville

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Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
« Reply #60 on: Today at 03:51:36 PM »
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  • AI is not a true reference for purposes of discussion. At least on a TRADITIONAL Catholic forum.
    "However, in March 2023 the Vatican..."  In other words, no "however". Gotcha.

    Are you even Trad?

    This is a Traditional Catholic forum BTW.
    So you are telling me that the doctrine of discovery did not exist and was not supported by the church untill 2023? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #61 on: Today at 03:55:17 PM »
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  • IT STATES IN THE DOcuмENTS THAT INDIGENOUS MENS A COUPLE OF CENTURIES WE ARE 250 YEARS OLD!!!!!!’ BLACK HAVE BEEN HERE 250 YEARS!!!!!!!! THAT MEANS INDIGENOUS BY THE STANDARD SET FORTH AMD IF YOU DIG INTO IT YOU WILL GET THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF YEARS STATED IN THE DOCTRINE OF DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
    Not sure what you mean when you post all crazy like this
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #62 on: Today at 03:56:45 PM »
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  • In regards to "servitude" (a word that's been manipulated in recent dictionaries to be synonymous slavery), there's nothing wrong with the sentiment of servitude to a master/employer, given the dignity of the human being is upheld.

    We all have masters we must listen to, no matter who we are. We are subject to someone hear in this life.


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #63 on: Today at 03:59:40 PM »
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  • Notice he is in direct contradiction to the two papal decrees of his time both pope Gregory 16 and pope Leo 13th. You can’t make this up!
    they will heap teachers unto themselves to scratch their itching ears.
    You just did.  Gregory XVI died two years before Fr. Meagher was born.
    How many of the popes have been Doctors of Divinity and studied so extensively as he...we don't know.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #64 on: Today at 04:03:27 PM »
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  • Are crime statistics biblical? :confused:
    All crime statistics tell you is how the current population of people are handling society.  Since the society in general does not believe in God, then people will act out there predominant faults, which may be aggression for some races, but it is a Godless society that leads to this.  Aren't are physical bodies less than our souls?

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    Is every county in Africa extremely unsafe? :confused:
    Isn't the world in general unsafe?  I would say yes, because people do not believe in God like they should.  If we all followed God like we are supposed to, then everyone will get in line where they should be.  This ranking is determined by God, not by man. If I am wrong, then please use the new testament to show where Jesus spoke to this.  

    I think this is the same as what Everlast22 is saying when mentioning the word enslavement.  In other words, we all have a natural hierarchy determined by God, some are called to rule and some are called to serve.

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    You're only taught how to recognize and
    conquer your vices if you are properly catechized..the Church used to do that in Africa

    Yes, and shouldn't we still try to do that.  Do you think that we can't catechize people anymore? Are we so afraid of dying for God, that we can't try this anymore?


    Just giving food for thought.  I do not have the answers.




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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #65 on: Today at 04:05:03 PM »
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  • All crime statistics tell you is how the current population of people are handling society.  Since the society in general does not believe in God, then people will act out there predominant faults, which may be aggression for some races, but it is a Godless society that leads to this.  Aren't are physical bodies less than our souls?
    Isn't the world in general unsafe?  I would say yes, because people do not believe in God like they should.  If we all followed God like we are supposed to, then everyone will get in line where they should be.  This ranking is determined by God, not by man. If I am wrong, then please use the new testament to show where Jesus spoke to this. 

    I think this is the same as what Everlast22 is saying when mentioning the word enslavement.  In other words, we all have a natural hierarchy determined by God, some are called to rule and some are called to serve.

    Yes, and shouldn't we still try to do that.  Do you think that we can't catechize people anymore? Are we so afraid of dying for God, that we can't try this anymore?


    Just giving food for thought.  I do not have the answers.
    Me. Sorry.
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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #66 on: Today at 04:15:11 PM »
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  • So you are telling me that the doctrine of discovery did not exist and was not supported by the church untill 2023? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery


    😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 where am I? Is 1800 not traditional!!!?  Since when is the factor of whether or not you are a traditional catholic hinge on whether or not you believe blacks are inferior to whites and should be subjected to us or rounded up and shipped to Africa!!? 😆 this is literally the entire argument! 

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #67 on: Today at 04:47:10 PM »
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  • All crime statistics tell you is how the current population of people are handling society. Since the society in general does not believe in God, then people will act out there predominant faults, which may be aggression for some races, but it is a Godless society that leads to this. Aren't are physical bodies less than our souls?
    You can look at it that way. Some groups are not handling it well!

    And an alternate take: crime statistics tell us what races commit the most violent crime



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    Isn't the world in general unsafe? I would say yes, because people do not believe in God like they should. If we all followed God like we are supposed to, then everyone will get in line where they should be. This ranking is determined by God, not by man. If I am wrong, then please use the new testament to show where Jesus spoke to this.
    Yes, it is unsafe. Primarily for our souls! If we did all follow God, then the world would be a much better place. I agree


    There are certain locations, however, that are much less safe for our physical well being, our loved ones, and property than other locations. No one wants to live where they feel unsafe and are more likely to be robbed, assaulted, murdered, etc


    I think this is the same as what Everlast22 is saying when mentioning the word enslavement. In other words, we all have a natural hierarchy determined by God, some are called to rule and some are called to serve.
    Indeed!

    Yes, and shouldn't we still try to do that. Do you think that we can't catechize people anymore? Are we so afraid of dying for God, that we can't try this anymore?
    Of course we should! There are traditional groups in Africa that are doing what they can to provide the sacraments to the faithful there, and convert non-Catholics as well. These groups are pretty small however, as most traditional chapels across the world are. Our Lord will bring His other sheep into His fold as well, but we need to do what we can to help

    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • There are certain locations, however, that are much less safe for our physical well being, our loved ones, and property than other locations. No one wants to live where they feel unsafe and are more likely to be robbed, assaulted, murdered, etc
    Isn't this more an indication of people's poverty level, not their race? Or maybe where they live, rural vs city?
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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • Isn't this more an indication of people's poverty level, not their race? Or maybe where they live, rural vs city?
    Poorer people do commit more crime. But you will find that certain races are arrested more often even across income levels. In fact, those of certain races in higher income levels are arrested more often than other races in lower income levels!
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #70 on: Today at 05:25:34 PM »
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  • Isn't this more an indication of people's poverty level, not their race? Or maybe where they live, rural vs city?
    Look throughout history what white peoples like Cromwell, George bush, Elizabeth of England,  the Dutch Calvinist have done. Are we exempt? Because of biological determinism? Thank you by the way grey. I’m not trying to just be contrary I have backed up everything I’ve said with Catholic teachings pre Vatican 2 even. They can not convince of this. 


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • Poorer people do commit more crime. But you will find that certain races are arrested more often even across income levels. In fact, those of certain races in higher income levels are arrested more often than other races in lower income levels!
    And you can’t attribute any of that to them not being brought into the Catholic faith?

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • I’ve gone out of my way to produce only pre Vatican two sources and condemnations of biological determinism. I’ve gone out of my way to only use sources pre honorable Pope pius x even. It all condemns both slavery and biological determinism!!! And I still get questioned whether I’m a traditional Catholic. That hurts. No one can refute the doctrine I produced. It’s history! 

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  • And you can’t attribute any of that to them not being brought into the Catholic faith?
    I think Catholics are less likely to commit crime than non-Catholics
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • I’ve gone out of my way to produce only pre Vatican two sources and condemnations of biological determinism. I’ve gone out of my way to only use sources pre honorable Pope pius x even. It all condemns both slavery and biological determinism!!! And I still get questioned whether I’m a traditional Catholic. That hurts. No one can refute the doctrine I produced. It’s history!
    Biological determinism, in the sense that natural inclinations toward certain behaviors are passed through genetics, has never been condemned...
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.