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Offline Michaelknoxville

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Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2025, 06:40:37 PM »
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  • Biological determinism, in the sense that natural inclinations toward certain behaviors are passed through genetics, has never been condemned...
    • In Supremo (Gregory XVI, 1839) condemned slavery, rejecting the idea that some races are destined to serve others.
    • In Plurimis (Leo XIII, 1888) explicitly praised abolition and declared slavery contrary to the Gospel, undermining racial determinism.
    • It violates the doctrine of free will “ hence determined” and violates the principle of human dignity that every man is created in the image of God endowed with freedom, and equal in dignity. 
    • Please read rerum novarum Leo 13, in plumaris leo 13 , Catholicae Ecclesiae (1890), Gregory 16 Supremo Apostolatus (1839):
    • You can not justify trashing a skin color and determining their soul based on any apearences I can not believe you guys are trying to justify this. 



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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #76 on: November 26, 2025, 06:52:40 PM »
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    • In Supremo (Gregory XVI, 1839) condemned slavery, rejecting the idea that some races are destined to serve others.
    • In Plurimis (Leo XIII, 1888) 
    • Please read rerum novarum Leo 13, in plumaris leo 13 , Catholicae Ecclesiae (1890), Gregory 16 Supremo Apostolatus (1839):
    None of these condemn what I just said

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    You can not justify trashing a skin color and determining their soul based on any apearences I can not believe you guys are trying to justify this.

    No one is "trashing a skin color" or "determining their soul"

    Blacks are not devoid of free will. They can, and do, choose to do what they do
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


    Offline Michaelknoxville

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #77 on: November 26, 2025, 07:09:36 PM »
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  • No, thank you!

    You're right, segregation or expulsion :cowboy:
    Yup no out reach no love no honoring your neighbors. You litteraly have all of tradition and scripture against you. They are no a religion you can condemn you are literally basing all of you negative beliefs on the color of skin. Then you wonder why none of them repent and come into the fold. Your sick. They are just as American as you. I can trace my family back before the revolution in the form of the French who got beat up to Canada and moved back shortly after. My great great grandmother is Mahican so my blood actually precedes the nation in this land. The rest of my family came in over 150 years ago from Ireland. I’m American. The blacks can trace their families back just as far. You can’t even accept them as Americans!!! 

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #78 on: November 26, 2025, 07:15:35 PM »
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  • Yup no out reach no love no honoring your neighbors. You litteraly have all of tradition and scripture against you. They are no a religion you can condemn you are literally basing all of you negative beliefs on the color of skin. Then you wonder why none of them repent and come into the fold. Your sick. They are just as American as you. I can trace my family back before the revolution in the form of the French who got beat up to Canada and moved back shortly after. My great great grandmother is Mahican so my blood actually precedes the nation in this land. The rest of my family came in over 150 years ago from Ireland. I’m American. The blacks can trace their families back just as far. You can’t even accept them as Americans!!!
    You're yammering again

    After they are segregated, missionaries should of course be sent to convert them..as was done in the past. That worked! :incense:
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #79 on: November 26, 2025, 07:21:37 PM »
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  • You're yammering again

    After they are segregated, missionaries should of course be sent to convert them..as was done in the past. That worked! :incense:
    Yeah good luck with that. I’m sure it will work out great. 👍🏻 


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #80 on: November 26, 2025, 08:03:32 PM »
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  • [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]In Supremo Apostolatus[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Condemning the Slave Trade[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Pope Gregory XVI - 1839 [/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Placed at the summit of the Apostolic power and, although lacking in merits, holding the place of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Who, being made Man through utmost Charity, deigned to die for the Redemption of the World, We have judged that it belonged to Our pastoral solicitude to exert Ourselves to turn away the Faithful from the inhuman slave trade in Negroes and all other men. Assuredly, since there was spread abroad, first of all amongst the Christians, the light of the Gospel, these miserable people, who in such great numbers, and chiefly through the effects of wars, fell into very cruel slavery, experienced an alleviation of their lot. Inspired in fact by the Divine Spirit, the Apostles, it is true, exhorted the slaves themselves to obey their masters, according to the flesh, as though obeying Christ, and sincerely to accomplish the Will of God; but they ordered the masters to act well towards slaves, to give them what was just and equitable, and to abstain from menaces, knowing that the common Master both of themselves and of the slaves is in Heaven, and that with Him there is no distinction of persons.
    But as the law of the Gospel universally and earnestly enjoined a sincere charity towards all, and considering that Our Lord Jesus Christ had declared that He considered as done or refused to Himself everything kind and merciful done or refused to the small and needy, it naturally follows, not only that Christians should regard as their brothers their slaves and, above all, their Christian slaves, but that they should be more inclined to set free those who merited it; which it was the custom to do chiefly upon the occasion of the Easter Feast as Gregory of Nyssa tells us. There were not lacking Christians, who, moved by an ardent charity ‘cast themselves into bondage in order to redeem others,’ many instances of which our predecessor, Clement I, of very holy memory, declares to have come to his knowledge. In the process of time, the fog of pagan superstition being more completely dissipated and the manners of barbarous people having been softened, thanks to Faith operating by Charity, it at last comes about that, since several centuries, there are no more slaves in the greater number of Christian nations. But – We say with profound sorrow – there were to be found afterwards among the Faithful men who, shamefully blinded by the desire of sordid gain, in lonely and distant countries, did not hesitate to reduce to slavery Indians, negroes and other wretched peoples, or else, by instituting or developing the trade in those who had been made slaves by others, to favour their unworthy practice. Certainly many Roman Pontiffs of glorious memory, Our Predecessors, did not fail, according to the duties of their charge, to blame severely this way of acting as dangerous for the spiritual welfare of those engaged in the traffic and a shame to the Christian name; they foresaw that as a result of this, the infidel peoples would be more and more strengthened in their hatred of the true Religion.
    It is at these practices that are aimed the Letter Apostolic of Paul III, given on May 29, 1537, under the seal of the Fisherman, and addressed to the Cardinal Archbishop of Toledo, and afterwards another Letter, more detailed, addressed by Urban VIII on April 22, 1639 to the Collector Jurium of the Apostolic Chamber of Portugal. In the latter are severely and particularly condemned those who should dare ‘to reduce to slavery the Indians of the Eastern and Southern Indies,’ to sell them, buy them, exchange them or give them, separate them from their wives and children, despoil them of their goods and properties, conduct or transport them into other regions, or deprive them of liberty in any way whatsoever, retain them in servitude, or lend counsel, succour, favour and co-operation to those so acting, under no matter what pretext or excuse, or who proclaim and teach that this way of acting is allowable and co-operate in any manner whatever in the practices indicated.
    Benedict XIV confirmed and renewed the penalties of the Popes above mentioned in a new Apostolic Letter addressed on December 20, 1741, to the Bishops of Brazil and some other regions, in which he stimulated, to the same end, the solicitude of the Governors themselves. Another of Our Predecessors, anterior to Benedict XIV, Pius II, as during his life the power of the Portuguese was extending itself over New Guinea, sent on October 7, 1462, to a Bishop who was leaving for that country, a Letter in which he not only gives the Bishop himself the means of exercising there the sacred ministry with more fruit, but on the same occasion, addresses grave warnings with regard to Christians who should reduce neophytes to slavery.
    In our time Pius VII, moved by the same religious and charitable spirit as his Predecessors, intervened zealously with those in possession of power to secure that the slave trade should at least cease amongst the Christians. The penalties imposed and the care given by Our Predecessors contributed in no small measure, with the help of God, to protect the Indians and the other people mentioned against the cruelty of the invaders or the cupidity of Christian merchants, without however carrying success to such a point that the Holy See could rejoice over the complete success of its efforts in this direction; for the slave trade, although it has diminished in more than one district, is still practiced by numerous Christians. This is why, desiring to remove such a shame from all the Christian nations, having fully reflected over the whole question and having taken the advice of many of Our Venerable Brothers the Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, and walking in the footsteps of Our Predecessors, We warn and adjure earnestly in the Lord faithful Christians of every condition that no one in the future dare to vex anyone, despoil him of his possessions, reduce to servitude, or lend aid and favour to those who give themselves up to these practices, or exercise that inhuman traffic by which the Blacks, as if they were not men but rather animals, having been brought into servitude, in no matter what way, are, without any distinction, in contempt of the rights of justice and humanity, bought, sold, and devoted sometimes to the hardest labour. Further, in the hope of gain, propositions of purchase being made to the first owners of the Blacks, dissensions and almost perpetual conflicts are aroused in these regions.
    We reprove, then, by virtue of Our Apostolic Authority, all the practices abovementioned as absolutely unworthy of the Christian name. By the same Authority We prohibit and strictly forbid any Ecclesiastic or lay person from presuming to defend as permissible this traffic in Blacks under no matter what pretext or excuse, or from publishing or teaching in any manner whatsoever, in public or privately, opinions contrary to what We have set forth in this Apostolic Letter.
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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #81 on: November 26, 2025, 08:23:22 PM »
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  • What example of Holy living have Americans given? 

    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Sublimis Deus[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]On the Enslavement and Evangelization of Indians[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Pope Paul III - 1537 [/color]

    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Pope Paul III (Topic: the enslavement and evangelization of Indians)[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]To all faithful Christians to whom this writing may come, health in Christ our Lord and the apostolic benediction.

    The sublime God so loved the human race that He created man in such wise that he might participate, not only in the good that other creatures enjoy, but endowed him with capacity to attain to the inaccessible and invisible Supreme Good and behold it face to face; and since man, according to the testimony of the sacred scriptures, has been created to enjoy eternal life and happiness, which none may obtain save through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, it is necessary that he should possess the nature and faculties enabling him to receive that faith; and that whoever is thus endowed should be capable of receiving that same faith. Nor is it credible that any one should possess so little understanding as to desire the faith and yet be destitute of the most necessary faculty to enable him to receive it. Hence Christ, who is the Truth itself, that has never failed and can never fail, said to the preachers of the faith whom He chose for that office ‘Go ye and teach all nations.’ He said all, without exception, for all are capable of receiving the doctrines of the faith.
    The enemy of the human race, who opposes all good deeds in order to bring men to destruction, beholding and envying this, invented a means never before heard of, by which he might hinder the preaching of God’s word of Salvation to the people: he inspired his satellites who, to please him, have not hesitated to publish abroad that the Indians of the West and the South, and other people of whom We have recent knowledge should be treated as dumb brutes created for our service, pretending that they are incapable of receiving the Catholic Faith.
    We, who, though unworthy, exercise on earth the power of our Lord and seek with all our might to bring those sheep of His flock who are outside into the fold committed to our charge, consider, however, that the Indians are truly men and that they are not only capable of understanding the Catholic Faith but, according to our information, they desire exceedingly to receive it. Desiring to provide ample remedy for these evils, We define and declare by these Our letters, or by any translation thereof signed by any notary public and sealed with the seal of any ecclesiastical dignitary, to which the same credit shall be given as to the originals, that, notwithstanding whatever may have been or may be said to the contrary, the said Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect.
    By virtue of Our apostolic authority We define and declare by these present letters, or by any translation thereof signed by any notary public and sealed with the seal of any ecclesiastical dignitary, which shall thus command the same obedience as the originals, that the said Indians and other peoples should be converted to the faith of Jesus Christ by preaching the word of God and by the example of good and holy living.
    [Dated: May 29, 1537]
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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #82 on: Yesterday at 12:07:00 AM »
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  • I'll take "Muddying the waters" for $200, Alex.

    No one here is defending the slave trade.


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • You're yammering again

    After they are segregated, missionaries should of course be sent to convert them..as was done in the past. That worked! :incense:
    Yes, it was done.
    At one time the Gospel was preached to every creature and every creature ultimately chose to either accept or reject it. Those who rejected it handed their sin down to their children, and their children's children....and it goes on still today:

    Numbers 14:18 The Lord is patient and full of mercy, taking away iniquity and wickedness, and leaving no man clear, who visitest the sins of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #84 on: Yesterday at 08:15:13 AM »
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  • I'll take "Muddying the waters" for $200, Alex.

    No one here is defending the slave trade.
    Everlast 22 “they should be subjugated to us or shipped out of the country.” “ the inferior black race should serve the superior white race” was the exact comment that kicked off 5 pages of people either defending it or I was the only one to say…….. we have some
    seriously bad delusions here. Not only is it not going to happen it’s against the principles laid out here in the encyclicals. They do not promote rounding men up and chaining them in your backyard or sticking them on a boat and shipping them to Africa a country they have not seen for 4-5-6-7 generations. The Protestants took the blacks. The same ones that subjugated them in the first place are the same ones destroying their lives today and some of you seek to aid in that. So once all that was cleared up the last defense was segregation and that worked well. 🤪 it’s delusional and takes the easy way out. It’s also delusional to think we are not segregated already. I lived in the ghetto. I lived next to Brookline ma, the two in no way mix with eachother.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #85 on: Yesterday at 08:23:25 AM »
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  • Brookline M.a is where the dirty Jew bastards that love that you think this way live in case you didn’t know. And Wellesley, newton, definitely ain’t no black people out there. They are liberal hell holes. Segregation is 100% still here. We don’t see the blacks as victims of the Protestants and the Jews we just discard them in the trash. 


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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #86 on: Yesterday at 08:31:19 AM »
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  • Segregation or expulsion is the last defence for the well-being of Whites. You are right again, Michael! 
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
    « Reply #87 on: Yesterday at 08:40:59 AM »
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  • Segregation or expulsion is the last defence for the well-being of Whites. You are right again, Michael!
    Yeah it’s working great! It’s working out super well. I’m sure you have only lived in sheltered communities so you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • Yeah it’s working great! It’s working out super well. I’m sure you have only lived in sheltered communities so you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
    Sheltered communities where you are incredibly less likely to be robbed, assaulted, murdered, raped..e.g., White communities? See, you get it

    It would have to be proper segregation of course  Mandatory employment..prohibition on degenerate music, film, immodest dress (these should apply to all). Blanket firearms ban and confiscation. No more blicky with a switch! We can do it if we try
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Is it a sin to say the nword?
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  • If you take the word/slang, "nigger", and subtract a letter "g" you would have Niger. A country in Africa.