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Author Topic: Is it a mortal sin to take the vaccine?  (Read 6714 times)

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Re: Is it a mortal sin to take the ναccιnє?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 09:47:50 AM »
Is taking the mark of the beast a mortal sin?
Yes.

Re: Is it a mortal sin to take the ναccιnє?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2021, 01:56:08 PM »
I hold it to be mortal sin to take one of the jabs that contain aborted baby cells ... for any reason.  It’s intrinsically sinful and involves direct (not remote) participation in grave evil.

I believe that taking the ones that used aborted cells for testing could be justified for a grave reason.  CÖVÌD does not constitute grave reason, but perhaps the loss of one’s job could qualify.

Taking one of the mRNA viruses that do not use fetal cells (though I don’t believe these exist yet) could be grave without serious reason because of the health effects, especially the destruction of fertility.  But if someone didn’t believe the evidence that this is the case, then I guess the person could be absolved of serious sin.  At this point we’re talking about scientific or medical judgment.

Taking a normal vax (attenuated virus and no use of fetal cells) such as being produced by a couple of companies would be less grave and less serious reasons could justify it ... again depending on one’s judgment about the potential harm done.

In the case of the harm to health, it would be analogous to taking on any line of employment that may be dangerous.

So the demand for a yes or no answer with a single sentence betrays some ignorance here ... as does the simple “yes” answer above.
Do any of the vaccines actually *contain* aborted fetal cell tissue?  I thought they all just used them for testing?


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Re: Is it a mortal sin to take the ναccιnє?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 02:07:33 PM »
Do any of the ναccιnєs actually *contain* aborted fetal cell tissue?  I thought they all just used them for testing?
Take a look here https://cogforlife.org

Re: Is it a mortal sin to take the ναccιnє?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2021, 02:11:35 PM »
A priest from Avrille told me that it makes no difference, morally speaking, whether the cells were used in testing or production/manufacturing.

The moral distinction which imagines permissibility in the former case, but not in the latter, is fictitious.

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Re: Is it a mortal sin to take the ναccιnє?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2021, 03:35:24 PM »
A priest from Avrille told me that it makes no difference, morally speaking, whether the cells were used in testing or production/manufacturing.

The moral distinction which imagines permissibility in the former case, but not in the latter, is fictitious.

I'm as against taking this ναccιnє as anyone else, but let's not blur things together.  You seem to have this attitude that if you merely throw the word "Avrille" out there, then suddenly the conclusion you assert must be true.  You'll need to share his reasoning.

As I've cited from other sources, including Fr. Ripperger, when the baby's cells are actually in the ναccιnє, then there's no more talk of remote cooperation or even material cooperation in some past evil, because then you're speaking about actively participating in an OINGONG evil, the injustice done to the child whose remains continue to be abused in the ναccιnє.

Once you take that out of the picture, then you're talking about a material cooperation, and various forms of material cooperation can be justified depending on the gravity of the justifying circuмstances.

So if you accurately quote this priest that "it makes no difference," then I immediately suspect his credentials and his learning, because clearly it "makes [a] difference".  Although I suspect that you're oversimplifying or distorting something he said.  But if he did claim it makes no "difference," then that's clearly false because the consequences of different types of cooperation can be different.