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Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
« on: October 13, 2014, 01:38:45 PM »
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  • Evidently the bishop here took away the indult Mass, and several of the people who attended it have appeared at my chapel. My question is : If the SSPX was taboo to them before because it was not in full communion with Rome, why do they suddenly feel its okay for them to attend? I don't get it.  I don't mind their attending, and I am sure they will start wearing skirts and veils after a while, but I don't understand their way of thinking.


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    Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
    « Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 01:45:59 PM »
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  • Perhaps "Full Communion" with a bunch of fαɢɢօty clerics isn't looking as attractive as it once used to ?

    Needs must when the devil drives.


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    Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
    « Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 02:03:10 PM »
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    Evidently the bishop here took away the indult Mass, and several of the people who attended it have appeared at my chapel. My question is : If the SSPX was taboo to them before because it was not in full communion with Rome, why do they suddenly feel its okay for them to attend? I don't get it.  I don't mind their attending, and I am sure they will start wearing skirts and veils after a while, but I don't understand their way of thinking.


    I guess the bottom line is inspiration from the Holy Ghost.  Conversion is a process.  It took me quite awhile to de-novus ordo.  God bless them for their persistence in seeking the holy of tradition vs the banal of n.o.

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    Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
    « Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 03:11:28 PM »
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  • Anyway it is good news.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 07:06:07 PM »
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    I guess the bottom line is inspiration from the Holy Ghost.  Conversion is a process.  It took me quite awhile to de-novus ordo.  God bless them for their persistence in seeking the holy of tradition vs the banal of n.o.


    Very true.  Me too.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 07:44:31 PM »
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    Evidently the bishop here took away the indult Mass, and several of the people who attended it have appeared at my chapel. My question is : If the SSPX was taboo to them before because it was not in full communion with Rome, why do they suddenly feel its okay for them to attend? I don't get it.  I don't mind their attending, and I am sure they will start wearing skirts and veils after a while, but I don't understand their way of thinking.


    I personally cannot stand holier-than-thou attitudes such as yours.

    Why they suddenly feel like assisting at the Mass where you go is none of your business, but you should rejoice and welcome newcomers.  


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    « Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 08:05:16 PM »
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  • I am so thankful for the people who were patient with me when I came out of the NO. They were helpful and not at all like the OP.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 08:48:03 PM »
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  • Maybe I'm not as optimistic as all of you, but if there's a tidal wave of people coming from the indult to the SSPX, to me that screams...

    Hey everyone! We're all one big happy family, and there's nothing to fight about anymore.

    Not something I personally would be enthused about...


    WELL YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, which is not possible at this present moment, and wasn't when Archbishop Lefebvre said this:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/lj2XqrwP0C8[/youtube]
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 14, 2014, 01:09:57 AM »
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  • The thought process was probably something like this, "We go to a diocesan TLM since the Motu, so we have the Mass of Ages *and* are in communion with Rome. Then theBishop removes this same TLM, so now we think something nefarious is going on. This isn't the old days of the indult where it was up to a local bishop quashing the TLM, now with the Motu, clearly they (the Bishop) are going out of their way to be rid of the TLM, so this breaks it"

    Between that and some of His Humbleness's utterances since becoming "Pope", some people might be jumping ship, finally.

    It's harder to reconcile what is going on than you think. NO Catholics get a heaping helping of " the gates of Hell shall not prevail..." and don't want to "protestantize"

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    « Reply #9 on: October 14, 2014, 08:17:15 AM »
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  • I agree with PFT.  Asimilation with 'mainstream church' has been accomplished, sspx are no longer the bogeyman, the former tiger of the faith, has become a pussycat, and is purring at the strokes of the 'kindly' hand of rome, and the indulters have no need to be fearful of sspx, sure they are probably on first name terms with the local ordinary, and will be able to wave him in, when he comes to 'preside' in the former sspx chapels.

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    Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
    « Reply #10 on: October 15, 2014, 04:42:48 PM »
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    Evidently the bishop here took away the indult Mass, and several of the people who attended it have appeared at my chapel. My question is : If the SSPX was taboo to them before because it was not in full communion with Rome, why do they suddenly feel its okay for them to attend? I don't get it.  I don't mind their attending, and I am sure they will start wearing skirts and veils after a while, but I don't understand their way of thinking.

    I guess the bottom line is inspiration from the Holy Ghost.  Conversion is a process.  It took me quite awhile to de-novus ordo.  God bless them for their persistence in seeking the holy of tradition vs the banal of n.o.



    PED --- I really appreciate your wisdom here.

    Fr. Fredrick Schell (trained as a Jesuit but voluntarily removed the "SJ" from his name years later) used to tell his congregation from the pulpit that we ought to be friendly, hospitable, and gracious to every newcomer.  When trads see a new face in the crowd, they're virtually accustomed to ignore them or to think the worst of them, especially when they're not wearing clothing that is deemed 'acceptable' by the chapel standards.  

    When someone new comes to Mass, and you're sitting in the same spot you sit in week after week, month after month, year after year, you have an inclination to see something about this new person as an affront to your comfort zone, but you ought to recognize this as a temptation of the devil, and not of God.  

    Take the extra moment to extend a Texas handshake and a Texas smile (Fr. Schell was a Texan, through and through, and while I've never been to Texas, because of him, Texas has come to me!), to make them feel like they're welcome, and not like they're a fish out of water or whatever.  Maybe it's a Texas turtle out of a Texas lake?  


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    « Reply #11 on: October 15, 2014, 04:50:42 PM »
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    Maybe Matthew or MaterDominici (who are Texans!) would like to comment on the hospitality and friendship aspect of new people coming to ANY chapel, not just SSPX?  

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    « Reply #12 on: October 15, 2014, 04:56:54 PM »
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    Evidently the bishop here took away the indult Mass, and several of the people who attended it have appeared at my chapel. My question is : If the SSPX was taboo to them before because it was not in full communion with Rome, why do they suddenly feel its okay for them to attend? I don't get it.  I don't mind their attending, and I am sure they will start wearing skirts and veils after a while, but I don't understand their way of thinking.

    I guess the bottom line is inspiration from the Holy Ghost.  Conversion is a process.  It took me quite awhile to de-novus ordo.  God bless them for their persistence in seeking the holy of tradition vs the banal of n.o.



    PED --- I really appreciate your wisdom here.

    Fr. Fredrick Schell (trained as a Jesuit but voluntarily removed the "SJ" from his name years later) used to tell his congregation from the pulpit that we ought to be friendly, hospitable, and gracious to every newcomer.  When trads see a new face in the crowd, they're virtually accustomed to ignore them or to think the worst of them, especially when they're not wearing clothing that is deemed 'acceptable' by the chapel standards.  

    When someone new comes to Mass, and you're sitting in the same spot you sit in week after week, month after month, year after year, you have an inclination to see something about this new person as an affront to your comfort zone, but you ought to recognize this as a temptation of the devil, and not of God.  

    Take the extra moment to extend a Texas handshake and a Texas smile (Fr. Schell was a Texan, through and through, and while I've never been to Texas, because of him, Texas has come to me!), to make them feel like they're welcome, and not like they're a fish out of water or whatever.  Maybe it's a Texas turtle out of a Texas lake?  
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    Well that explains why we are always greeted so warmly by so many at OLHC when we are in town.  Msgr has carried on Fr. Schell's charitable philosophy.  

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    Indulters suddenly flooding SSPX chapel
    « Reply #13 on: October 15, 2014, 05:35:28 PM »
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  • Phew, I thought I was the only crazy person around here...

     :rolleyes:

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    I agree with PFT.  Asimilation with 'mainstream church' has been accomplished, sspx are no longer the bogeyman, the former tiger of the faith, has become a pussycat, and is purring at the strokes of the 'kindly' hand of rome, and the indulters have no need to be fearful of sspx, sure they are probably on first name terms with the local ordinary, and will be able to wave him in, when he comes to 'preside' in the former sspx chapels.

    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,