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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2025, 11:12:23 PM »
This is bad advice.  It's not the priest's job to be fashion police.

Public shaming should come back.  It's the only thing that works on women.  You see a women dressed inappropriately, you say something like "Wow, didn't know you could dress like that a church." 

It's not about being mean, it's about correcting bad behavior.  It works.  That's how society used to operate.
That is interesting that you say that.  I have seen signs that say what is proper to wear.  These signs also tell the people to let the priest handle immodesty issues, so ... I am not sure your advice is right.

Änσnymσus

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2025, 11:17:29 PM »
Haha, thanks for the responses everyone. I was tempted to tell the girls/her parents myself but I decided asking for prudent counsel on CI was a better option. If the girls keep dressing immodestly I will mention it to the priest. They dont always dress like this but if a woman's clothing is too tight it's a problem. 


Offline Matthew

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2025, 11:18:57 PM »
Some women are just inclined to dress as slutty as possible. I was just noticing at my girls' choir performance today, one of the girls had a very short skirt on. Literally everyone else was modestly dressed. They were required to wear black and white clothing (pants and skirts/dresses were allowed). Girls like that end up causing the authorities to have to be super strict and require an actual uniform -- because some girls push the envelope as far as they can.

Maybe she's an On|yF4ns model -- present or future.

At my old SSPX chapel there was a girl who dressed very immodestly. Several parishioners gave her trouble, and I don't blame them. Eventually the family left -- and went to a particularly poor-quality Indult group. Based on what we can see on Facebook, it looks like they have PLENTY of problems. The dad was a total beta. A real doormat. Very quiet and soft-spoken. And the wife was very hot-headed, aggressive, strong willed, liberal, etc. A recipe for disaster. They were a large family too. The guy came from a longtime Trad family; the wife was a convert.

Long story short, dressing like that is just a symptom of pretty serious issues. It is NOT a small matter. Some girls are just broken in the modesty department. Their life is destined for chaos, sadness, despair, and destruction.

Änσnymσus

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2025, 11:20:39 PM »


This quasi-Pharisaical attitude that has infected many Trad groups would seem to be a strange combination of scrupulosity (where you feel that your'e required in conscience to rebuke all evil) and an extreme over-reaction against the laxity of the Conciliars and of the modern world.  We need to find the right balance.  No, we are not required to reprimand or rebuke all sinners.  We are only required to do so if we have authority over them (as the priest at the chapel would), AND if we believe that the rebuke would actuall have the desired effect of correcting the behavior rather than causing the individual to double down, and that reaction can be determined by HOW one does it.  Certain people do not have the right attitude, or even just the right personality ... to properly correct, and the priest should find someone who knows that can do it the right way, without making the place seem like a cult.

And that goes for other situations too.  I've gone into Trad chapels where the ushers act like SS officers, embarrassing people by telling them they're in the wrong place or violating some kind of etiquette that they had no way ot knowing about, etc. ... and if that's the first impression you get walking into a Traditional chapel for the first time, the chances that you'll return were just reduced by 95%.
If you don't mind answering, do you think I should rebuke/politely tell people not to use our Lord's name in vain? I'm mainly talking about coworkers/friends/family not random people i happen to pass by on a walk or activity.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2025, 11:24:18 PM »
To respond to Ladislaus --

It really depends on how immodest we're talking. If you're nitpicking, then NO, just shut up and mind your own business.

But if it's a parishioner who's been going there for a while, she should SEE that everyone else is modest, and YET she is not changing her immodest attire. At some point, it becomes obvious she is determined to greedily harvest attention from males as a resource of sorts. At that point, I think some social shaming is called for. Absolutely social pressure is in order. If the woman doesn't fear God, then social consensus is the only thing some women understand. It used to be socially acceptable to shame things that were shameful, and everything worked well. When you let women do whatever they want, some women will go crazy with it. I suppose that's true with any human being.

But I agree with Ladislaus, that if the immodesty is serious enough, the priest NEEDS to be brought into the loop. It's his job. If/when he fails to do his job, THEN you move on to the social shaming, firm but polite confrontation, etc.