You should tell the priest. Never go to the woman directly.

You should tell the priest. Never go to the woman directly.

This is bad advice.  It's not the priest's job to be fashion police.

Public shaming should come back.  It's the only thing that works on women.  You see a women dressed inappropriately, you say something like "Wow, didn't know you could dress like that a church."  

It's not about being mean, it's about correcting bad behavior.  It works.  That's how society used to operate.

This is bad advice.  It's not the priest's job to be fashion police.

Public shaming should come back.  It's the only thing that works on women.  You see a women dressed inappropriately, you say something like "Wow, didn't know you could dress like that a church." 

It's not about being mean, it's about correcting bad behavior.  It works.  That's how society used to operate.

THIS type of garbage is why some people leave Trad chapels after one visit because they think it's a cult.  Snide comments like that absolute are mean and not about "correcting bad behavior".  If you want to correct the behavior, then a lady (not some man) should be designated to very kindly inform the individual, not engage in backbiting sarcastic crap that you pretend is now "charity".  That's just nasty behavior that you're trying to pretend is charity.

While it's not the priest's job to be fashion police, and generally it's inappropriate for him to do so ... to a point, it's his job to say something, communicate the standards of dress, and if necessary designate some kind lady who could, without coming across nasty as per your advice here, gently offer correction.  After several attempts at correction fail, then other steps should be taken, depending on the gravity of it.

So, I said it's not the priests' job to be fashion police ... only to a point.  But Canon Law actually requires that a priest refuse the Saraments to those who approach immodestly dressed ... so it's not entirely true.  But, it's also not true that the priest isn't ULTIMATELY responsible, and so he should delegate that responsibility to someone else, not let rogue half-cocked snobs go around making sarcastic comments, giving the place a decidedly cult vibe, and possibly driving people away.

This quasi-Pharisaical attitude that has infected many Trad groups would seem to be a strange combination of scrupulosity (where you feel that your'e required in conscience to rebuke all evil) and an extreme over-reaction against the laxity of the Conciliars and of the modern world.  We need to find the right balance.  No, we are not required to reprimand or rebuke all sinners.  We are only required to do so if we have authority over them (as the priest at the chapel would), AND if we believe that the rebuke would actuall have the desired effect of correcting the behavior rather than causing the individual to double down, and that reaction can be determined by HOW one does it.  Certain people do not have the right attitude, or even just the right personality ... to properly correct, and the priest should find someone who knows that can do it the right way, without making the place seem like a cult.

And that goes for other situations too.  I've gone into Trad chapels where the ushers act like SS officers, embarrassing people by telling them they're in the wrong place or violating some kind of etiquette that they had no way ot knowing about, etc. ... and if that's the first impression you get walking into a Traditional chapel for the first time, the chances that you'll return were just reduced by 95%.

THIS type of garbage is why some people leave Trad chapels after one visit because they think it's a cult.  Snide comments like that absolute are mean and not about "correcting bad behavior".  If you want to correct the behavior, then a lady (not some man) should be designated to very kindly inform the individual, not engage in backbiting sarcastic crap that you pretend is now "charity".  That's just nasty behavior that you're trying to pretend is charity.

While it's not the priest's job to be fashion police, and generally it's inappropriate for him to do so ... to a point, it's his job to say something, communicate the standards of dress, and if necessary designate some kind lady who could, without coming across nasty as per your advice here, gently offer correction.  After several attempts at correction fail, then other steps should be taken, depending on the gravity of it.

So, I said it's not the priests' job to be fashion police ... only to a point.  But Canon Law actually requires that a priest refuse the Saraments to those who approach immodestly dressed ... so it's not entirely true.  But, it's also not true that the priest isn't ULTIMATELY responsible, and so he should delegate that responsibility to someone else, not let rogue half-cocked snobs go around making sarcastic comments, giving the place a decidedly cult vibe, and possibly driving people away.

This quasi-Pharisaical attitude that has infected many Trad groups would seem to be a strange combination of scrupulosity (where you feel that your'e required in conscience to rebuke all evil) and an extreme over-reaction against the laxity of the Conciliars and of the modern world.  We need to find the right balance.  No, we are not required to reprimand or rebuke all sinners.  We are only required to do so if we have authority over them (as the priest at the chapel would), AND if we believe that the rebuke would actuall have the desired effect of correcting the behavior rather than causing the individual to double down, and that reaction can be determined by HOW one does it.  Certain people do not have the right attitude, or even just the right personality ... to properly correct, and the priest should find someone who knows that can do it the right way, without making the place seem like a cult.

And that goes for other situations too.  I've gone into Trad chapels where the ushers act like SS officers, embarrassing people by telling them they're in the wrong place or violating some kind of etiquette that they had no way ot knowing about, etc. ... and if that's the first impression you get walking into a Traditional chapel for the first time, the chances that you'll return were just reduced by 95%.

People who dress inappropriately (and who should know better) need to be shamed.

This does not include newcomers to Tradition.  The OP was not talking about newcomers but established laity who should know better.

THIS type of garbage is why some people leave Trad chapels after one visit because they think it's a cult.  

You're changing the topic, which is not about a random visitor who dresses immodestly.  The topic is young ladies who are part of the chapel and who dress wrongly.

Haha, thanks for the responses everyone. I was tempted to tell the girls/her parents myself but I decided asking for prudent counsel on CI was a better option. If the girls keep dressing immodestly I will mention it to the priest. They dont always dress like this but if a woman's clothing is too tight it's a problem. 

This quasi-Pharisaical attitude that has infected many Trad groups would seem to be a strange combination of scrupulosity (where you feel that your'e required in conscience to rebuke all evil) and an extreme over-reaction against the laxity of the Conciliars and of the modern world.  We need to find the right balance.  No, we are not required to reprimand or rebuke all sinners.  We are only required to do so if we have authority over them (as the priest at the chapel would), AND if we believe that the rebuke would actuall have the desired effect of correcting the behavior rather than causing the individual to double down, and that reaction can be determined by HOW one does it.  Certain people do not have the right attitude, or even just the right personality ... to properly correct, and the priest should find someone who knows that can do it the right way, without making the place seem like a cult.

And that goes for other situations too.  I've gone into Trad chapels where the ushers act like SS officers, embarrassing people by telling them they're in the wrong place or violating some kind of etiquette that they had no way ot knowing about, etc. ... and if that's the first impression you get walking into a Traditional chapel for the first time, the chances that you'll return were just reduced by 95%.

If you don't mind answering, do you think I should rebuke/politely tell people not to use our Lord's name in vain? I'm mainly talking about coworkers/friends/family not random people i happen to pass by on a walk or activity.