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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2025, 08:27:39 AM »
What? lol

Like the priest has time for that at the moment of stopping her (or him) from entering. You need ushers for that.

For regular church "members" this is an easy, "fix it or leave" scenario, if they are out of town and probably think it's a regular Novus Ordo Church, well, they're in the wrong place if they can't change. Sorry. This is a bigger offense to God than people think, in my opinion.
I totally agree.

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2025, 08:31:22 AM »
Our usher team has turned away a handful of newcomers who thought our church was novus ordo and were not dressed correctly.  It was done politely and they were invited to return.

For people who are dressed nicely but have short skirts or wear modest pants, they sit in the choir loft where their presence won't be a distraction.

For all newcomers, they are not allowed to receive communion, unless they are Trads.

These are our priests' rules and the ushers enforce them.


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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2025, 08:34:03 AM »
I was talking to the priest at Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet at the front of the church about 10 years ago, and mid-sentence he turned around to a girl in a mini skirt about to enter. "Miss" he said "I'm sorry but you cannot enter the church dressed like this. It's written on the front in clear writing, what is acceptable clothing here"

The girl said nothing and looked to the young man she was with to see what he would do. He went up to the priest and said "Father, this is very embarassing. I'm trying to show the church to this girl and you're not making it easy" 

The priest replied:"I'm sorry but she's not going in dressed like this. It's a mortal sin to be dressed in such a way" 

The young man replies "It's not a sin father...." 

He interrupts "Young man, your not seriously going to tell me what is or isn't a mortal sin. Although you are certainly embarrassed this all I can tell you as that the negative influence of immodest dressing has far more influence on people than modesty. You can bring her back, when she's changed into something better"

Then he turned back to me and took up our previous conversation as if nothing had happened.      

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2025, 08:36:36 AM »
The usher should not allow her to enter until she dresses appropriately. Who cares whether that flatters or disturbs the woman? It's not meant to be any type of compliment, rather it should embarrass or shame her but these days it probably won't. The point to be made clear to her and everyone is that she's not getting in dressed like that. Period. 

See, this is precisely the over-reaction against Conciliar laxity that results in a leaven of the Pharisees being injected into Traddieland, and resulting in not a few walking away from the places with the vibe that there's something "cult-like" about them, and deciding never to come back.

What do you mean "who cares" about whether you might be humiliating someone, who may be in slight violation of traditional standards that are not known to them, in good faith ... where you would make no distinction between someonew who's trying to enter wearing a two-piece bikini and a woman who might have her top a couple inches lower than the typical cutoff.

So you're going to have a man stand there and put the two fingers against the neck of any woman who enters with a borderline-low cut, just to make sure.

"who cares ... Period" ... typifies this crappy attitude

We all should care.  We can accomplish the same thing without having a woman subjected to Stubborn standing by the door ogling her and then putting two fingers up to her neck to see if she's in violation and then humiliating her by telling her to get out if she's a half inch past due.

This is borderline nuts.

You have an older lady in the back, not a male usher, who's delegated by the priest, and who's given instructions about what would require a gentle correction and would would require being barred from entering the main church (undoubtedly two different standards), and someone who does "care" and doesn't make someone run the other way and never look at another Trad chapel ever again after being humiliated by someone who doesn't "care".

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Re: Immodest outfits
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2025, 08:37:06 AM »
I was talking to the priest at Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet at the front of the church about 10 years ago, and mid-sentence he turned around to a girl in a mini skirt about to enter. "Miss" he said "I'm sorry but you cannot enter the church dressed like this. It's written on the front in clear writing, what is acceptable clothing here"

The girl said nothing and looked to the young man she was with to see what he would do. He went up to the priest and said "Father, this is very embarassing. I'm trying to show the church to this girl and you're not making it easy"

The priest replied:"I'm sorry but she's not going in dressed like this. It's a mortal sin to be dressed in such a way"

The young man replies "It's not a sin father...."

He interrupts "Young man, your not seriously going to tell me what is or isn't a mortal sin. Although you are certainly embarrassed this all I can tell you as that the negative influence of immodest dressing has far more influence on people than modesty. You can bring her back, when she's changed into something better"

Then he turned back to me and took up our previous conversation as if nothing had happened.     
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This is exactly what every priest should do. Very cool story.