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Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2024, 10:59:54 AM »
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    I often think that charity should be done without getting anything back.  The novus Ordo is always having parties and dinners patting each other on the back while the religious organizations use government money.  That’s not charity but being big shows.  They are seeking attention.  They often neglect the people who truly need help.

    No time for sacraments but plenty of time to party.  Diocese goes bankrupt but holds a huge party. 

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #31 on: January 30, 2024, 11:34:26 AM »
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  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    Go ahead and volunteer, be a good example to all, help all those god puts in your path while volunteering, if the management causes you trouble, then tell them why they are wrong and do what is right, if they do not like it, then they are free to let you go. That is what is nice about volunteering, you are freer to be yourself, as thy have no power over you since you do not depend on them for a paycheck. If God wills for you to be there, then all will work out, if not, then the doors will close on that opportunity.


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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #32 on: January 30, 2024, 12:08:34 PM »
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  • If the unethical practices of some organizations deters you from volunteering with them, you could look at more personal ways to help others. 

    Helping the disabled with house work or personal grooming, taking the home bound out and about to the park or some other enjoyable venue, comforting the lonely in nursing homes, etc. 

    I guess I’m drawn to these things because my grandmother is at that stage in her life that if she socializes with anyone, it’s because someone comes to visit her at her house. She no longer drives and is unsteady on her feet so she rarely even steps outside. She is so lonely. A visitor is balm to her soul. Seeing this with my grandmother opened my eyes to how many lonely people there are in the world. 
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #33 on: January 30, 2024, 12:11:04 PM »
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  • If someone is posting this question here they've already gone through the usual channels of possible volunteer activities at their church. And has been pointed out many people live hours from their chapels. That comment about helping at church was very snarky and unnecessary.
    It may not necessarily be true that someone is already aware of every possible option, that is why they are asking, and many appreciate hearing new ideas.  Someone may even become inspired to initiate a new effort that doesn't currently exist where they are.

    Not every suggestion will be suitable for every person.  Not everyone can sew, knit, or quilt.  Not everyone can do heavy maintenance or yard work for their chapel or a senior.  Some don't drive and are reliant on rides or public transit (where available) to get to a volunteer activity, which limits their options.  Some don't live close to their traditionalist chapel and helping with things there on a regular basis and during the week would not be practical.  On the other hand, maybe they could take the linens and altar server vesture home after Mass on Sunday and bring them back laundered and pressed the next Sunday.  Maybe they could bring a casserole or pie for the priest.  Maybe they could bring fresh flowers from their garden for the altar.  When suggestions are made it is assumed that they won't be doable, practical, suitable, or possible for everyone, but among the many suggestions most would find something they could do.

    In reply #23 AMDGJMJ gave several excellent suggestions that can be done by those who don't necessarily live close to their chapel.

    I found the anonymous reply #22 to be very snarky and unnecessary.

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #34 on: January 30, 2024, 12:34:21 PM »
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  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. ..

    What do you do?
    You could take in stray cats and help find them a good home, maybe offer them to elderly people living alone. Then maybe the elder person would call on you for additional help. 


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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #35 on: January 30, 2024, 01:31:29 PM »
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  • It may not necessarily be true that someone is already aware of every possible option, that is why they are asking, and many appreciate hearing new ideas.  Someone may even become inspired to initiate a new effort that doesn't currently exist where they are.

    Not every suggestion will be suitable for every person.  Not everyone can sew, knit, or quilt.  Not everyone can do heavy maintenance or yard work for their chapel or a senior.  Some don't drive and are reliant on rides or public transit (where available) to get to a volunteer activity, which limits their options.  Some don't live close to their traditionalist chapel and helping with things there on a regular basis and during the week would not be practical.  On the other hand, maybe they could take the linens and altar server vesture home after Mass on Sunday and bring them back laundered and pressed the next Sunday.  Maybe they could bring a casserole or pie for the priest.  Maybe they could bring fresh flowers from their garden for the altar.  When suggestions are made it is assumed that they won't be doable, practical, suitable, or possible for everyone, but among the many suggestions most would find something they could do.

    In reply #23 AMDGJMJ gave several excellent suggestions that can be done by those who don't necessarily live close to their chapel.

    I found the anonymous reply #22 to be very snarky and unnecessary.
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    Yes. Someone could just say to the priest, "I have some free time and I would like to do something to help the church, but I can only come to church on Sunday."

    Does anyone think the priest would say, "No, thank you, we already have all the help we need." Seriously? I have never heard of such a thing in all my born days.

    Just because someone doesn't know how they can help out in such circuмstances, doesn't mean the priest won't be able to think of anything. And as I said, the best good work is one that is done directly for God.

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #36 on: January 30, 2024, 03:02:12 PM »
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  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    If you have a problem with how these organizations do things or what you can or cannot say I would say try to do something on your own. It's something I've done before.

    I think something you might enjoy is connecting with less fortunate people and being able to remain in contact with them in some way, not just an anonymous people you once served at a soup kitchen and never seeing them again, rather serve people in your community whose names you will remember not only when you see them again but also in your prayers. Some people just need someone to talk to.

    Recently I found this young man on the internet that cooks and serves food to the homeless and most of these videos seem to be at the same park. He has hosted 4th of July parties and even Christmas dinner for the homeless but it appears to be something that he does every couple of weeks or at the very least once a month. I believe he is doing something very good and very local as the park may be near his home. For some people, this is the closest they get to having a family dinner.