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If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Church?

Yes
9 (29%)
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16 (51.6%)
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Änσnymσus

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Re: If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Chuch?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2021, 10:55:46 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 10, 2021, 10:52:10 PM
The poll is set up with the presumption that the SSPX is the Catholic Church?
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Re: If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Chuch?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2021, 04:13:50 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 10, 2021, 10:52:10 PM
The poll is set up with the presumption that the SSPX is the Catholic Church?

Is that how you interpret it?

The SSPX is part of the Catholic Church (for now). The Conciliar Church is more debatable. The Indult is part of that Conciliar milieu...
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Änσnymσus

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Re: If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Chuch?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2021, 07:25:01 PM »
One of the FSSPX priest from Europe in a recent sermon was very critical of churches where both NO and TLM Masses coexist - I guess this is what happens where indult used to take place and now some NO priests slowly transition. He almost directly said that it is better for the soul to attend NO rather than mix them up.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Chuch?
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2021, 08:27:25 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 11, 2021, 07:25:01 PM
He almost directly said that it is better for the soul to attend NO rather than mix them up.
That's ridiculous. How would it be better for the soul to adhere to a blatantly false rite, than, at minimum, a cosplay of the true Mass? At least with the false Indult rite you're getting exposed to the accidentals of the True Mass, even though it lacks its substance. With the Novus Ordo Missae you get not only something visibly repugnant, but also lacking any substance of the Faith whatsoever.
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Re: If a SSPX family joins the indult, have they left the Catholic Chuch?
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2021, 12:06:07 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 11, 2021, 08:27:25 PM
That's ridiculous. How would it be better for the soul to adhere to a blatantly false rite, than, at minimum, a cosplay of the true Mass? At least with the false Indult rite you're getting exposed to the accidentals of the True Mass, even though it lacks its substance. With the Novus Ordo Missae you get not only something visibly repugnant, but also lacking any substance of the Faith whatsoever.
One can argue that blurring the difference between NO and TLM and normalizing their coexistence in the same church is a way worse evil. As it would be to faithful to chose. Fr. Hesse warned against indult as well.
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