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Author Topic: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome  (Read 122 times)

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Re: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome
« Reply #5 on: Today at 01:54:02 PM »
..... There's no traditional priest in this area ...
What about outside your immediate area? Call one within a 2-hour drive radius and see what he says or what tips he may have.

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Re: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:58:34 PM »
This is a situation I have wondered about also.  If water baptism has to happen, and these souls can't ask for it (The mentally young who have been born into not Catholic families also fall into this category), then for what purpose would God send them away from Him?  

I know nobody is owed Heaven, but a severely mentally disabled person, who is born into a non Catholic family will never figure it out on their own.


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Re: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome
« Reply #7 on: Today at 02:13:45 PM »
Maybe you can try to get them to wear the scapular, even if it means to wrap it around their wrist or ankle if they cannot wear it around their neck.
I don't think they're allowed to wear anything unless they themselves ask for it. The nurses will take them off for sure. But they're not leaving their room ever. If I manage to find somewhere to hide it in the room I think that will do. 

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Re: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome
« Reply #8 on: Today at 02:15:44 PM »
What about outside your immediate area? Call one within a 2-hour drive radius and see what he says or what tips he may have.
Monthly missionary chapel here. I can ask Father when I see him again.


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Re: Ideas to Help Save Souls in Carehome
« Reply #9 on: Today at 02:16:50 PM »
You really should not baptize anyone unless they ask for it, and even then only conditionally unless you're certain they've never been baptized. If they return to health after being baptized, you will be responsible to instruct them in the faith or at least get them to go to see a trad priest.   

Canon 752

§ 1. An adult should not be baptized unless he knowingly and with desire has been rightly instructed; moreover, he should be admonished to be sorry for sins.
§ 2. But in danger of death, if the adult is not able to be diligently instructed in the principal mysteries of the faith, it is sufficient for the conferral of baptism that he shows by some sign that he agrees with them and seriously commits himself to the observance of the mandates of the Christian religion.
§ 3. But if he is not able to ask for baptism, [yet] either before or during the present state he manifested in some probable way the intention of receiving it, he should be baptized under condition; if he later recovers and there is doubt about the validity of the baptism conferred, he should be baptized again under condition.


Canon 754

§ 1. The insane or mad should not be baptized unless they were such from birth or from before they attained the use of reason; and then they are to be baptized as if infants.
§ 2. If they have lucid intervals, while they are in possession of their senses, they can be baptized if they wish.
§ 3. If in imminent danger of death, they can likewise be baptized if before they were insane, they showed the desire of taking baptism.
§ 4. If they are in a coma or delirium, they can be baptized only when awake and desirous [of baptism]; but if danger of death occurs, the prescript of § 3 is to be observed.
Thanks for the Canon laws. That was something I wasn't sure about.