Author Topic: I am tired of fake lukewarm trads (Read 8579 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #105 on:** December 19, 2025, 11:01:53 AM »

Boomers had 3-4 children on average.

Later generations toned that down further to 2 children.

The latest generation is going with "no marriage or children" which is why American culture is doomed, dead, DOA at this point.
When a culture can't even guide its "adherents" to successfully repeat the cycle (have a family, have children, and train those children with the same beliefs/culture, so as to eventually replace you) then your culture is as worthless as tits on a bull.

Heathen cultures all over the world are superior to the current American "culture". At least those pagan, heathen cultures manage to propagate themselves over the centuries. They result in families being formed, children being born, and raised in that culture so it can continue.

Our "culture" has degraded to the point it is suicidal -- self-destructive. It's over.

Justinian · « **Reply #106 on:** December 19, 2025, 11:14:56 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on December 19, 2025, 11:01:53 AM

Boomers had 3-4 children on average.

Later generations toned that down further to 2 children.

The latest generation is going with "no marriage or children" which is why American culture is doomed, dead, DOA at this point.
When a culture can't even guide its "adherents" to successfully repeat the cycle (have a family, have children, and train those children with the same beliefs/culture, so as to eventually replace you) then your culture is as worthless as tits on a bull.
Heathen cultures all over the world are superior to the current American "culture". At least those pagan, heathen cultures manage to propagate themselves over the centuries. They result in families being formed, children being born, and raised in that culture so it can continue.

Our "culture" has degraded to the point it is suicidal -- self-destructive. It's over.

I am hoping that the Gen Alpha or whatever the under 16s (my children generation) are known as, will react against the anti child anti family culture and ‘rebel’ by getting married and having bigger families if they can. Perhaps a spiritual change or some miracle will prompt this. 🙏

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #107 on:** December 19, 2025, 12:27:07 PM »

Quote from: Everlast22 on December 19, 2025, 08:00:25 AM

What was this about?

It's about understanding the OP. Observation and interaction over time with the OP (I think we all know who he is) has convinced me that ASD explains in part his difficulties in grasping certain concepts. His seeming inability to have a detached, "big picture", if you will, view of life and his circuмstances. Obvious "autistic looping", i.e. rehashing the same problems over and over.

I say this not to belittle or humiliate, but in an honest attempt to understand. I don't think that the OP is stupid or bad nor that he should be treated as less of a human being, he's not. I just think that his ASD qualities should be kept in mind and proper allowances made when trying to interact with him. But it's not a one way street. He is also responsible for making a good faith effort to understand not only himself but others. He has to learn to make allowances for others just as much as they do for him.

And, just because I think he's on the spectrum, doesn't mean he's off the hook. He's not an "autist", he's a human being who has what is sometimes a disability. Having autism doesn't mean that one can't also be immature and have a shitty attitude. And it's no lack of charity to say so and push back on those things.

By the way, I am not "girlytrad". I haven't really given any thought to who she (he?) is. As far as Lad being autistic, I could be wrong, but I've never really thought so. I think he just gets carried away sometimes and needs pushback when he does. Who here doesn't?

As far as staying anonymous when the OP himself stays anonymous, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I can't imagine anyone who's been around here a while not being able to pick up on another regular member's accustomed idiom anyways.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #108 on:** December 19, 2025, 12:30:06 PM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on December 19, 2025, 12:27:07 PM

It's about understanding the OP. Observation and interaction over time with the OP (I think we all know who he is) has convinced me that ASD explains in part his difficulties in grasping certain concepts. His seeming inability to have a detached, "big picture", if you will, view of life and his circuмstances. Obvious "autistic looping", i.e. rehashing the same problems over and over.

I say this not to belittle or humiliate, but in an honest attempt to understand. I don't think that the OP is stupid or bad nor that he should be treated as less of a human being, he's not. I just think that his ASD qualities should be kept in mind and proper allowances made when trying to interact with him. But it's not a one way street. He is also responsible for making a good faith effort to understand not only himself but others. He has to learn to make allowances for others just as much as they do for him.

And, just because I think he's on the spectrum, doesn't mean he's off the hook. He's not an "autist", he's a human being who has what is sometimes a disability. Having autism doesn't mean that one can't also be immature and have a shitty attitude. And it's no lack of charity to say so and push back on those things.

By the way, I am not "girlytrad". I haven't really given any thought to who she (he?) is. As far as Lad being autistic, I could be wrong, but I've never really thought so. I think he just gets carried away sometimes and needs pushback when he does. Who here doesn't?

As far as staying anonymous when the OP himself stays anonymous, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I can't imagine anyone who's been around here a while not being able to pick up on another regular member's accustomed idiom anyways.

Forgot to add, now I'm off to do fun boomer things, work, read physical books, write in cursive, and drive around slowly with my blinker on even though I'm not turning. See Ya!

WorldsAway · « **Reply #109 on:** December 19, 2025, 01:01:01 PM »

I think it's understandable to be "stuck" or "looping" on the things mentioned by the OP...they're mostly all what a young, Trad male is going to be experiencing regularly. So it's pretty hard not to focus on them

And it doesn't help that things are going to get worse before they can get...worse.

Drolo · « **Reply #110 on:** December 19, 2025, 01:40:27 PM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on December 19, 2025, 12:27:07 PM

It's about understanding the OP. Observation and interaction over time with the OP (I think we all know who he is)

I don't know who he is

But it's true that I don't visit the forum so much and I can stay months without doing it. Perhaps I haven't interacted enough with the OP's account to know his idioms .

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #111 on:** December 19, 2025, 08:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Justinian on December 19, 2025, 11:14:56 AM

I am hoping that the Gen Alpha or whatever the under 16s (my children generation) are known as, will react against the anti child anti family culture and ‘rebel’ by getting married and having bigger families if they can. Perhaps a spiritual change or some miracle will prompt this. 🙏

That's only possible of those gen a girls marry an older established man so they can stay at home and raise 10+ children. So the age gap question comes again + the age at which girls can be married.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #112 on:** December 20, 2025, 02:46:18 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on December 19, 2025, 08:32:57 PM

That's only possible of those gen a girls marry an older established man so they can stay at home and raise 10+ children. So the age gap question comes again + the age at which girls can be married.

Unless the gen A boys also step up to responsibility and actually want to marry and remain faithful. No objection to a reasonable age gap eg 10 years but not advisable for anyone to marry before 18. 21 or over ideally. Men especially not before 21. As men mature later than women.

Drolo · « **Reply #113 on:** December 20, 2025, 02:58:29 AM »

I think the OP is right in the fact that boomers are disconnected from reality. For example, 50 years ago it was much easier to find a job, someone like Matthew wouldn't have any problem finding one. But the job market now is super crazy. You can send out 200 CVs and receive nothing but automated rejections, and not even an interview. You have job offers for "juniors" that require 3 years of experience, and it's almost impossible to find a real junior position; it's completely crazy.

50 years ago, nobody in Spain wanted to be a civil servant because you earn less in the public sector than in the private sector. Now, half of young people spend years studyng for competitive exams, and thousands compete for a civil servant job because in Spain, if you are a civil servant, you have a job for life, you won't be fired if you do your work, and job instability is so high that it's highly desirable.

Saying this isn't complaining, it's just pointing out the reality of the world today.

The same goes for male-female dynamics, I think a lot of they don't understand how much has changed in the last 50 years.

Just my two cents.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #114 on:** December 20, 2025, 03:35:44 AM »

Quote from: Drolo on December 20, 2025, 02:58:29 AM

I think the OP is right in the fact that boomers are disconnected from reality. For example, 50 years ago it was much easier to find a job, someone like Matthew wouldn't have any problem finding one. But the job market now is super crazy. You can send out 200 CVs and receive nothing but automated rejections, and not even an interview. You have job offers for "juniors" that require 3 years of experience, and it's almost impossible to find a real junior position; it's completely crazy.

50 years ago, nobody in Spain wanted to be a civil servant because you earn less in the public sector than in the private sector. Now, half of young people spend years studyng for competitive exams, and thousands compete for a civil servant job because in Spain, if you are a civil servant, you have a job for life, you won't be fired if you do your work, and job instability is so high that it's highly desirable.

Saying this isn't complaining, it's just pointing out the reality of the world today.

The same goes for male-female dynamics, I think a lot of they don't understand how much has changed in the last 50 years.

Just my two cents.

The dating market is WORSE than the job market, really set that sink in.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #115 on:** December 20, 2025, 08:48:01 AM »

No one here is denying the difficulties of life for many right now, nor denied anyone the right to express their frustrations, anxieties, or disappointment. What has been pushed back on is the unrelenting negativity, the refusal to see that there are good things happening in your life. If you tell me that there isn't any good in your life, that is not true, that is not the full reality, it is a practical denial of the Providence of God.

Also, what has been pointed out are considerations to help one see more clearly the "big picture", e.g. consider how many people did not get a chance at life, how many people do have it far worse than you in the right here and now. Open it up to viewing your situation in the broad scope of history. And I don't mean an idealised fantasy of the past, but the cold, hard realities of daily life for our ancestors.

Also, at the end of the day, does your venting even actually make you guys feel any better, or does it just distort and magnify the problems? I ask this as someone who used to bitch non-stop. After a while, by a grace I think, I realised that the complaining wasn't making me feel better and it certainly wasn't helping me overcome any of the problems in life that I could control. I finally started to see that my attitude was far more corrosive and impossible to bear than any external circuмstance ever was.

I've been labelled a "boomer". On one hand, that doesn't really bother me. If you want to imagine that I'm living the carefree high-life, materially speaking, it just tells me that you know nothing about my actual situation or that of millions of others. There certainly are "boomers" that have it made, again materially speaking. Some of them really earned it; put in a tremendous amount of work and took major risks. Some seem not to have earned it; they had some gravy-job, often in government, didn't work all that hard, retired early with a nice big pension. Some of these people that "have it made" are really kind, generous, and a joy to be around. Some are real assholes that do nothing but complain about everything anyways. What of it? Their attitude isn't conformed to the broader reality any more than the ones who overdo the griping here. And if my choices were that I could be wealthy like them but I had to have that negative attitude or that I could be relatively poor but have an attitude that let's me be grateful for life, I would (and did) choose the latter. I'm happy to be "out of touch".

Like I say, go ahead and call me boomer, but at least be honest enough with yourself to realise that it's, I think the kids call it, a "cope". "Copes" and generalisations are a tempting way to process the difficulties of life, but the long term costs are just too high.

Now I have to go to work. See Ya.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #116 on:** December 20, 2025, 08:58:53 AM »

Quote from: Drolo on December 20, 2025, 02:58:29 AM

I think the OP is right in the fact that boomers are disconnected from reality.

No. It's simply that they have gone through experiences in life, and attained wisdom according to the circuмstances they lived through. When the circuмstances change, they cannot suddenly redo their wisdom with hypothetical speculation on how that wisdom would NOW be affected. So they try to just continue in the outdated wisdom which can hit the mark, but will sometimes miss the mark because they don't have the time or energy to study what has really changed and how it affects things.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #117 on:** December 20, 2025, 09:12:02 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on December 15, 2025, 08:09:28 PM

I do wish to love my (future) wife as Christ loved the Church, but I also expect obedience. I won't be compromising on Catholic doctrines, or my (basic) standards for women. I won't buckle under boomer delusion or Jєωιѕн propaganda. But realistically what can I do? Most of the women at my chapel are not ladies I would consider marrying, either because they aren't white, or they are fat, or they have tattoos, or took the covid injection, or they are not feminine or because they don't believe in EENS properly.

I think we found the problem. As the song goes, "One of these things is -- not like the others."

Fat? how fat we talking? And is it genetic big-boned, or actually living an unhealthy lifestyle? The two are not the same. I've seen girls in the same family, some are "skinny" like Italians while other sister(s) are stocky like Germans. We're talking from childhood, despite having the exact same lifestyle, eating the same food, etc. Explain that.
Wanting a white girl? Fine. Wanting a pureblood who hasn't been genetically engineered? Fine. Wanting a decent woman without a wild past, which is shown by having tattoos? Fine. And being unfeminine is a deal-breaker.
But that last one -- that shows you're getting too serious about your armchair theology. Unless she has real issues, like she isn't Traditional, then I have my doubts. Generally a feminine woman is docile, that is to say able-to-be-taught, and will follow her husband on DRY, ACADEMIC, THEORETICAL, and IRRELEVANT topics like "how many angels can you fit on the end of a pin", or "can God save someone without water Baptism?"

You can be as picky as you want, but you can also be single. It's your choice. You do you.

WorldsAway · « **Reply #118 on:** December 20, 2025, 10:14:40 AM »

Well it depends on if by "they don't believe EENS properly" he means that the girl holds BOD for the unbaptized who believe in the Truths of the faith necessary for salvation and who desire to enter the Church..or if she believes that non-Catholics can be saved in their false religion, but not by their false religion

The former shouldn't be an impediment to marriage. The latter could use some work

Drolo · « **Reply #119 on:** December 20, 2025, 11:48:07 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on December 20, 2025, 08:48:01 AM

No one here is denying the difficulties of life for many right now, nor denied anyone the right to express their frustrations, anxieties, or disappointment. What has been pushed back on is the unrelenting negativity, the refusal to see that there are good things happening in your life. If you tell me that there isn't any good in your life, that is not true, that is not the full reality, it is a practical denial of the Providence of God.

Also, what has been pointed out are considerations to help one see more clearly the "big picture", e.g. consider how many people did not get a chance at life, how many people do have it far worse than you in the right here and now. Open it up to viewing your situation in the broad scope of history. And I don't mean an idealised fantasy of the past, but the cold, hard realities of daily life for our ancestors.

Also, at the end of the day, does your venting even actually make you guys feel any better, or does it just distort and magnify the problems? I ask this as someone who used to bitch non-stop. After a while, by a grace I think, I realised that the complaining wasn't making me feel better and it certainly wasn't helping me overcome any of the problems in life that I could control. I finally started to see that my attitude was far more corrosive and impossible to bear than any external circuмstance ever was.

I've been labelled a "boomer". On one hand, that doesn't really bother me. If you want to imagine that I'm living the carefree high-life, materially speaking, it just tells me that you know nothing about my actual situation or that of millions of others. There certainly are "boomers" that have it made, again materially speaking. Some of them really earned it; put in a tremendous amount of work and took major risks. Some seem not to have earned it; they had some gravy-job, often in government, didn't work all that hard, retired early with a nice big pension. Some of these people that "have it made" are really kind, generous, and a joy to be around. Some are real assholes that do nothing but complain about everything anyways. What of it? Their attitude isn't conformed to the broader reality any more than the ones who overdo the griping here. And if my choices were that I could be wealthy like them but I had to have that negative attitude or that I could be relatively poor but have an attitude that let's me be grateful for life, I would (and did) choose the latter. I'm happy to be "out of touch".

Like I say, go ahead and call me boomer, but at least be honest enough with yourself to realise that it's, I think the kids call it, a "cope". "Copes" and generalisations are a tempting way to process the difficulties of life, but the long term costs are just too high.

Now I have to go to work. See Ya.

Well. I want to clarify that I'm not the OP. I've only posted in this thread with my account, not anonymously.

In fact, what I'm doing is preparing for a civil service exam for a IT technician job in a municipality. Once I get a stable job, I'll see if I can invest in a business or something.

Author Topic: I am tired of fake lukewarm trads (Read 8579 times)

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