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Änσnymσus · « **on:** September 05, 2020, 01:11:05 PM »

How rare are mortal sins
by no means I wish to encourage it or to normalise it.
I know gerard majella and st therese among many went through life fine without committing any,

But when i'm in the queue for confesssion i wonder if they are just there for venial or actual mortal

I mean, mortal sin should not exist at all. I shouldn't be a thing or a word.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 05, 2020, 01:17:41 PM »

mortal sins are as common as the grains of sand on the beach. If one is not trying to avoid them, one may commit a thousand such sins in one day, for evil thoughts can rise to the level of mortal sin if one has a perverted mind.

poche · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2020, 12:57:48 AM »

Here is a description of Hell by Sister Lucia;

As Our Lady spoke these last words, she opened her hands once more, as she had done during the two previous months. The rays of light seemed to penetrate the earth, and we saw as it were a sea of fire. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke now falling back on every side like sparks in huge fires, without weight or equilibrium, amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. (It must have been this sight which caused me to cry out, as people say they heard me). The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repellent likeness to frightful and unknown animals, black and transparent like burning coals. Terrified and as if to plead for succour, we looked up at Our Lady, who said to us, so kindly and so sadly: You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace.

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/joseph-pronechen/fatima-july-13-apparition-ways-to-overcome-a-frightening-vision

jvk · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2020, 05:38:04 AM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 05, 2020, 01:11:05 PM

But when i'm in the queue for confesssion i wonder if they are just there for venial or actual mortal

It's really none of your business, is it?
Shouldn't it be more of your concern to focus on your OWN sins? And then thank God that you have been spared that transgression and only by His grace--not your own power.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2020, 01:41:25 PM »

I think mortal sins are exceedingly common. Get a good exam of conscience and think! Mortal sins surround us. Mortal sinners are in the majority except maybe among the most holy of Catholic adults. Young children are falling into mortal sin. Who is free from sin?
This is a strange question.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2020, 02:07:42 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 07, 2020, 01:41:25 PM

I think mortal sins are exceedingly common. Get a good exam of conscience and think! Mortal sins surround us. Mortal sinners are in the majority except maybe among the most holy of Catholic adults. Young children are falling into mortal sin. Who is free from sin?
This is a strange question.

Nevertheless, some traditional Catholics do not fall into mortal sin. It's by the grace of God of course, but they still aren't falling into mortal sin. Can you give some examples of these mortal sins that are all around us? These sins that are as common as grains of sand on the beach? And being free from sin and free from mortal sin are two entirely different things. A mortal sin must be grave matter, you must know that it's a grave sin, and you must fully consent to it. When the Holy Ghost said the just man falls seven times a day, He wasn't referring to mortal sins.

Matto · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2020, 02:12:04 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 07, 2020, 02:07:42 PM

Can you give some examples of these mortal sins that are all around us? These sins that are as common as grains of sand on the beach?

I think one of the most common mortal sins for men is indulging in lustful thoughts about women (committing adultery in one's heart).

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2020, 05:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 07, 2020, 02:07:42 PM

Nevertheless, some traditional Catholics do not fall into mortal sin. It's by the grace of God of course, but they still aren't falling into mortal sin. Can you give some examples of these mortal sins that are all around us? These sins that are as common as grains of sand on the beach? And being free from sin and free from mortal sin are two entirely different things. A mortal sin must be grave matter, you must know that it's a grave sin, and you must fully consent to it. When the Holy Ghost said the just man falls seven times a day, He wasn't referring to mortal sins.

Most secular people(including many lax Catholics) probably commit mortal sins of impurity multiple times a day. Then there's blasphemy, dishonouring one's parents, false gods, coveting thy neighbour's goods, bearing false witness etc. Obviously most of these things are rare among Trads, although I definitely slip up on a few of these myself on occasion, but among the general population they all seem common as muck.

jvk · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:01:00 AM »

ANY sin is an ultimate offense against God. Just "because it's only a venial sin" doesn't mean that's it's any less an offense to His almighty dignity and goodness. In fact, venial sins make the soul sick, weaken it, and dispose it towards committing a mortal sin.

A venial sin will still bind you to the devil. Think of it this way: a venial sin is like a thread, and a mortal sin is like a chain connecting you to the devil. A single thread is easily snapped. But a thousand or a million or even more...they can be just as difficult to snap all at once as one mortal sin. In fact, it would take MORE work to loose the threads that bind you.

As Catholics, isn't it our duty to strive to be free from ALL sin, all inclination to sin, not just those that are mortal? Can't a soul still go to Hell with venial sins?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:20:41 AM »

Here is a quote from St. John Eudes on the effect of our sins on Our Lord’s Sacred Heart. Read it well.

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The first cause of those most painful Wounds in the Sacred Heart of Our Redeemer is our sins. We read in the life of Saint Catherine of Genoa that one day God let her see the horror of one tiny venial sin. She assures us that, although this vision lasted but a moment, she saw nevertheless an object so frightening that the blood froze in her veins and she swooned away in an agony that would have killed her if God had not preserved her to relate to others what she had seen. Wherefore she declared that if she were in the very depths of a sea of flaming fire and it were in her power to be set free, on condition that she should once more behold such a spectacle, she would choose to remain rather than to escape. If the sight of the smallest venial sin brought this saint to such a pass, what must we think of the state to which Our Saviour was reduced by seeing all the sins of the universe? He had them continually before His Eyes, and His vision being infinitely more powerful than that of Saint Catherine, He could behold infinitely more horror

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:04:27 PM »

Quote from: jvk on September 08, 2020, 05:01:00 AM

ANY sin is an ultimate offense against God. Just "because it's only a venial sin" doesn't mean that's it's any less an offense to His almighty dignity and goodness. In fact, venial sins make the soul sick, weaken it, and dispose it towards committing a mortal sin.

A venial sin will still bind you to the devil. Think of it this way: a venial sin is like a thread, and a mortal sin is like a chain connecting you to the devil. A single thread is easily snapped. But a thousand or a million or even more...they can be just as difficult to snap all at once as one mortal sin. In fact, it would take MORE work to loose the threads that bind you.

As Catholics, isn't it our duty to strive to be free from ALL sin, all inclination to sin, not just those that are mortal? Can't a soul still go to Hell with venial sins?

Well yes, but not BECAUSE of them.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2020, 12:29:35 AM »

Just think of all of the acts of fornication, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and birth control. All of these sins are grave matter for a mortal sin. It seems that in our age, mortal sins are commonplace and are normalized, so there is no stigma in the culture.

Jaynek · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2020, 11:18:09 AM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 05, 2020, 01:11:05 PM

How rare are mortal sins
by no means I wish to encourage it or to normalise it.

The book Frequent Confession [url=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1889334162/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1889334162&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 says that this is something that changes with spiritual maturity. People start out falling into mortal sin fairly often, but, with prayer and Sacraments, grow in faith. The author says that eventually people can reach a stage of never falling into mortal sin. It is still beneficial for such people to attend Confession frequently since the Sacrament gives us graces and strength to avoid future sins. (This is the main premise of the book.)

Both those who have committed mortal sins and those who have committed venial sins have good reason to go to Confession. It would not surprise me if many of the people in the queue are there for venial sins, since people who attend Confession frequently would tend to be those who have made the most spiritual progress. But I see little benefit in thinking about the sins of others, especially while waiting in line for Confession. We should be thinking about things that will increase our sense of contrition, such as how greatly God deserves our obedience.

poche · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2020, 03:27:44 AM »

From a soul in Purgatory;

You are sad in seeing how God is insulted in Paris, but those poor people do not know what they are doing, in spite of all their blasphemies. Jesus is much more outraged by the sins of those consecrated to Him than by the more violent crimes of those who are not His friends. How many souls whom Jesus has called to perfection remain always worthless because they have not corresponded to Divine Grace.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=6253

Those of us who are traditional Catholics are called to a greater holiness than just anybody.

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